Fire On The ...doormat
- Thread starter Sunfire
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I think it's a pretty bold statement to say that the new books are "useless", especially since they will each contain new material and will be hardbound and corrected. Not to mention that the New Order books will be available for a reasonable price, and that by putting them back into print we will hopefully see more new Lone Wolf books in the future.
My copy of FFTD has held up well so far, and word from the people who have received FOTW has been that they have improved the binding.
I think you need to stop being so relentlessly negative on these forums about everything relating to the re-release and start being happy that we can at least see the darn books back in print. Frankly your posts and your broken English are getting pretty tiresome.
I think you need to stop being so relentlessly negative on these forums about everything relating to the re-release and start being happy that we can at least see the darn books back in print. Frankly your posts and your broken English are getting pretty tiresome.
I'm sorry about my english, it's my fault and I apologize for that.Tabris said:
But stopping a complain from a customer is not good.
It's not right to have only "happy" feedback and negate the "bad" ones, it sounds too convenient.
I'm not the only one that had issues with the book and we post here to give feedback about that.
I have no problem if Mongoose fix this but it's also true that they give insufficient update news about that, expecially on the product page. What I complain is the way the thing was managed.
If I take my book saying nothing than the quality won't rise a bit, that's not how feedback works.
I'm happy that Dever rewrite his books, updating them and adding new content but I can't be happy that they are being released in this state. No one that liked LW can be happy about this.
I hope you won't be too angry about that, it's not my intention to get people angry when we have the same interest.
Balgin Stondraeg
Mongoose
MIK0 said:
The binding on the second book is much better. You can open it and hold it open. It might actualy be a bit lose at the front and the back (where the map/combat resolution table meets the cover). Other than that it's a vast improvement. The cover is also larger (so the pages don't stick out past the edges). I can take a photo if people want.
I understand that, the internet is truly a multi lingual place. Would you like me to post a comparison picture of the first and second book so you can see the difference between the covers? The second one can be opened quite wide and held open easily without springing shut. Given the possible weakness at the sides I tend to hold it in my hands rather than spreading it out flat on a table or something because I want to look after my book and make sure that it lasts. I'm sorry that you've had some bad luck with your book. So far mine have both lasted and I don't know what everyone else's copies were like.
Balgin Stondraeg said:
It would be good. Please post the photo. Thanks.
I have a replacement first book, the one with the map with white text and that fit the page. The issue with binding is still there but what I fear the most are the first and last pages that seem to be ripped apart every time I open the book. Probably the book will last one or two readings (in the previous some pages started to detached from the beginning of the book, just after the first pages) but I think that a good book should be read many and many times without damages (if readed properly). The fact that the book has weakness at the sides is a design error that must be fixed in my opinion.
However in my book I got random issue like 2-3mm line at the top of the pages or different margin every pages.
Eternalknight
Mongoose
Xex said:
I'm guessing and hoping it is Lord Lieutenant Rhygar
Balgin Stondraeg
Mongoose
Xex said:
It is indeed Lord Leiutenant Rhygar. it takes place a few years before he meets Lone Wolf. It's a criminal investigation. Something important to the kingdom of Durenor has been stolen and he tries to retrieve it.
EvilRedEye
Mongoose
Is it good?
Balgin Stondraeg
Mongoose
The mini adventure? It's good but towards the end it suddenly balloons up into something a lot larger and the adventure feels too short for the big thing that it's supposed to be. It's the right length for the kind of adventure it was mean't to be before it changes.
Anyway, here's some pictures (and I hope Mongoose don't mind me posting these). Sorry for the bad lighting but it's been raining and overcast today so I just held the books by the windows and hoped for the best light I could get.
First off let's look at the way the inner spine stuck out on book 1 and compare it to book 2.
The top of the spine of book 1.
The top of the spine of book 2.
The bottom of the spine of book 1 (still projecting a bit).
The bottom of the spine of book 2.
So the bottom of the spine of book 2 sticks out a bit but the spine of book 1 sticks out at both ends. Book 2's a bit thinner so that might give the illussion of the camera being closer.
Next up here's the edges of the cover:
The edge of book 1's cover.
The edge of book 2's cover.
I was originaly worried that the pages of book 1 were almost outside the cover. With book 2 there's a nice margin around the edge.
For the last pictures I opened the book, held it in my hand and didn't hold it open. I just let it spring shut as much as it wanted to and when it stopped I took a picture (the camera's a bit too close for book 2's picture but I'm not holding it open).
Book 1 open.
Book 2 open.
That's a pretty big difference. Book 2 is definately easier to hold open and doesn't snap shut on you when you let go to have a drink or munch a sandwich or something like book 1 would
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I generaly consider the quality to be a major improvement. The spine still stuck out a bit at the bottom but the rest of the problems that the first book had didn't seem to be there. I think it could still be improved a bit but it's already a lot better than the first book's binding was.
There were also no pictures or letters going off the edge of pages.
Anyway, here's some pictures (and I hope Mongoose don't mind me posting these). Sorry for the bad lighting but it's been raining and overcast today so I just held the books by the windows and hoped for the best light I could get.
First off let's look at the way the inner spine stuck out on book 1 and compare it to book 2.
The top of the spine of book 1.
The top of the spine of book 2.
The bottom of the spine of book 1 (still projecting a bit).
The bottom of the spine of book 2.
So the bottom of the spine of book 2 sticks out a bit but the spine of book 1 sticks out at both ends. Book 2's a bit thinner so that might give the illussion of the camera being closer.
Next up here's the edges of the cover:
The edge of book 1's cover.
The edge of book 2's cover.
I was originaly worried that the pages of book 1 were almost outside the cover. With book 2 there's a nice margin around the edge.
For the last pictures I opened the book, held it in my hand and didn't hold it open. I just let it spring shut as much as it wanted to and when it stopped I took a picture (the camera's a bit too close for book 2's picture but I'm not holding it open).
Book 1 open.
Book 2 open.
That's a pretty big difference. Book 2 is definately easier to hold open and doesn't snap shut on you when you let go to have a drink or munch a sandwich or something like book 1 would
.I generaly consider the quality to be a major improvement. The spine still stuck out a bit at the bottom but the rest of the problems that the first book had didn't seem to be there. I think it could still be improved a bit but it's already a lot better than the first book's binding was.
There were also no pictures or letters going off the edge of pages
.Thank you for posting the photos. The second book seem indeed better. I think that the fact that the first book has so much pages made the big difference.
How are the pages at the side? Do they risk to rip apart when you open the book like the first?
However I have to say that the issues that was partially solved (the binding that is visibile from the side of the book) have to be completly fixed, I don't think that it's a thing that can't be done without that unaesthetic effect.
How are the pages at the side? Do they risk to rip apart when you open the book like the first?
However I have to say that the issues that was partially solved (the binding that is visibile from the side of the book) have to be completly fixed, I don't think that it's a thing that can't be done without that unaesthetic effect.
Got my copy of the 2nd book today. The binding was much better than the 1st book, although there was some glue residue from attaching the core to the shell on the outside of the book, although I was able to remove it. Overall this book is much better than the 1st book physically.
I would like to say that I think Mongoose really needs to ship these books in boxes, especially internationally. US Postal Service workers are not gentle with packages even if you write "fragile" or "do not bend" on them, and there were quite a few dents and nicks in the book that I'm sure were inflicted during transit. The padded envelopes are really not sufficient.
I'm also wondering what Mongoose is planning to do with the triple release this month. I really don't want to see copies of the two novels and Book 3 all shoved into one padded envelope.
I would like to say that I think Mongoose really needs to ship these books in boxes, especially internationally. US Postal Service workers are not gentle with packages even if you write "fragile" or "do not bend" on them, and there were quite a few dents and nicks in the book that I'm sure were inflicted during transit. The padded envelopes are really not sufficient.
I'm also wondering what Mongoose is planning to do with the triple release this month. I really don't want to see copies of the two novels and Book 3 all shoved into one padded envelope.
Yogah of Yag
Mongoose
Tabris said:
Putting "fragile" or "handle with care" on a parcel is an invitation for the Postal Workers to play a game of rubgy with it! :shock:
I agree, I hope the 'Goose ups the quality of the packaging before I order the next 4 books! *hint, hint, Matt!*
I received my book yesterday and when I looked at the cover, part of the cover art seemed to be "cut off" when compared to the online preview of the cover. When I say "cut off," I'm not referring to any of the book cover as being missing, but rather the picture does not include as much as the preview. For example, the ghost in the left-hand bottom corner has only the top of his head visible. Is this the same for everyone else?
Also, looking at this book, there was something that I noticed about the quality of the art. In FftD, the pictures looked very... pixiliated? However, in FotW, the pictures are filled in much nicer. Is everyone elses FftD "pixilated," or did I get a copy that is defective in terms of the art? Perhaps from the ink running low during copy?
Other than those two MINOR things, I love FotW thus far. It's one of my favorite of the entire (original) series. The level of nostalgia I felt reading this one is much greater than the first since it starts off the same. There's a certain value in that that we would not get if it was rewritten.
Also, looking at this book, there was something that I noticed about the quality of the art. In FftD, the pictures looked very... pixiliated? However, in FotW, the pictures are filled in much nicer. Is everyone elses FftD "pixilated," or did I get a copy that is defective in terms of the art? Perhaps from the ink running low during copy?
Other than those two MINOR things, I love FotW thus far. It's one of my favorite of the entire (original) series. The level of nostalgia I felt reading this one is much greater than the first since it starts off the same. There's a certain value in that that we would not get if it was rewritten.
Balgin Stondraeg
Mongoose
munari said:
Yes I noticed that too.
Got mine a couple of days ago. Yes to Megadeal. Living in MS.
My only complaint is that there was a dent in the top of the spine from lack of padding inside the envelope. These things are tossed around during transport and sorting, so I can expect more of the same until the bubble wrap gods intervene.
Other than that, it's nice. Now there are two books on my shelf.
KL, glad the paper used in the books isn't so stiff anymore
My only complaint is that there was a dent in the top of the spine from lack of padding inside the envelope. These things are tossed around during transport and sorting, so I can expect more of the same until the bubble wrap gods intervene.
Other than that, it's nice. Now there are two books on my shelf.
KL, glad the paper used in the books isn't so stiff anymore
