FFTD Errata

[Winter Wolf]

I think I may have spotted a problem with one of the links in the book. At the end of section 22 you are required to select a random number and one of the options the middle one points to section 180 I'm pretty sure that this is not right. Can some one confirm this and if anyone knows which section it should go to I would be grateful if you could let me know.
For now I will round up for a better outcome.

Thanks WW

 

[lastbesthope]

Yeah, 180 does seem wrong, anyone know the right answer?

LBH

 

[Balgin Stondraeg]

The bridge section (86) has a missing word. It's not missing as in "not there anymore" but missing as in "the sentence needs it".

It has often been used as a meeting and trading place for merchants, but now it is being used for a much sinister purpose.

Clearly that should be :

a much more sinister purpose.

It's at the end of a paragraph so there's room for the missing word .

Seriously 'though, it's a really good book and it deserves a lot more praise than it's getting but it's not easy to go listing all the good bits, one page after another, and just go "that one's a really good page too" or something like that but the few things that have irked me really stood out from the main quality by seeming so different or just a little bit odd (like the missing word from that sentence).

 

[jeveutout]

i have made a flow chart of the book, i was hoping to find the mistake of the 22 that mislead to the 180, but there nothing like that, everything seem a the right place there no section alone...

i think we must follow the logic of the 394 and stick to two choices.


something else :
section 66, you found some items. we don't know if they are items or specials item, but amongst them, there the gold key.

according to 161 in the previous Flight from the dark, the gold key was a special item.

since we can only carry 8 items, this is important ^^

 

[lastbesthope]

Any chance you could email me that flowchart?

LBH

 

[jeveutout]

i can send you the flow chart, but i am trying to improve it.

i am adding the numbers of the previous Flight from the dark to help see which section are really news.

for example, near the 381, i have added 1 in the new flow chart .

198 was 141 in the previous book, ect...

anyway i send you the flowchart, and the improved flowchart after when i am ready ^^

 

[jeveutout]

one more :

before, in the 350 Flight from the dark, there was a problem with the merchant's bodyguard endurance.
(220-191) this is the same fight, but in one he has 20 endurance, and for other he has 21.

this has been corrected he has 20 both time now.

but now, in the 550 Flight from the dark, there a problem with his combat skill GRRRR
(280-329) this is the same fight, but in one he has 11 in combat skill, and 12 for the other...

 

[Balgin Stondraeg]

Oh yeah.... Using the golden key in the monastery doesn't mean you lose it. So later you could theoreticaly cheat and use it when the lock asks for a gold key. There's two golden keys and two locks that need a golden key but I think the one under the graveyard shouldn't accept the monastery key.

Also.... does rope still count as 2 items?

The Kai crystals (battle crystal & sleep crystal), are they special items or backpack items? None of the items are defined as backpack or special items now but usualy I can work it out.

 

[jeveutout]

Oh yeah.... Using the golden key in the monastery doesn't mean you lose it. So later you could theoreticaly cheat and use it when the lock asks for a gold key. There's two golden keys and two locks that need a golden key but I think the one under the graveyard shouldn't accept the monastery key.

no errata for this, there a gold Key in 66, to use in monastery, and a golden key in the crypt (229), to use in the crypt.
gold and golden can be confusing, but this is not an errata, i have checked carefully.
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236 you find an Alether potion, this is not said in the new FFTD, but according to 164 first FFTD, this is a special item.
536 you find a fire flask, this is said it is a backpack item, not a special.

there no logic there, flask or potion are the same for me, so where are we supposed to put them ?
maybe for the new FFTDT, each time the text are not accurate about an item we must assume it is a backpack item...
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425 there something funny...

reduce the number of gold crowns you currently possess by half, with any fractions rounded up, e.g. if you possess 11 gold crowns, half of this sum would be 6,5 rounded up to 7

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i have some problem about giak language too :

137, what's tag ? (maybe it is taag instead ?)
270, what's gar ? (no clue here)
363, what's daag ? (maybe it is darg ?)

 

[Balgin Stondraeg]

Oh yeah.... Using the golden key in the monastery doesn't mean you lose it. So later you could theoreticaly cheat and use it when the lock asks for a gold key. There's two golden keys and two locks that need a golden key but I think the one under the graveyard shouldn't accept the monastery key.

no errata for this, there a gold Key in 66, to use in monastery, and a golden key in the crypt (229), to use in the crypt.
gold and golden can be confusing, but this is not an errata, i have checked carefully.

Even more confusing when the crypt lock now asks for a gold key, not golden key (prompting you to think of the monastery key if you had it earlier).

 

[jeveutout]

it is even more complicated than that hihi, there 3 gold-golden key !

about the crypt :
342, "you sink your hand into the roiling larvae and retrieve a golden key"

229, slowly this tongue re-emerges, grasping a golden key.

there is 2 golden key in the crypt

the crypt lock are in 31 with illustration, and i read "if you possess a golden key and wish to try it in the lock , turn 505

505carefully you insert the golden key (...)

so, no problem here, golden key all the way for the crypt

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in monastery :
66, and discover the following items : (...) Gold Key

monastery lock : 453 if you possess a Gold Key, turn 104
104 you take the small golden key from your pack (...)

so there an error in 104, it should be "small Gold Key" instead of "small golden key".

 

[Angantyr]

236 you find an Alether potion, this is not said in the new FFTD, but according to 164 first FFTD, this is a special item.
536 you find a fire flask, this is said it is a backpack item, not a special.

there no logic there, flask or potion are the same for me, so where are we supposed to put them ?
maybe for the new FFTDT, each time the text are not accurate about an item we must assume it is a backpack item...

I cannot find anything in the original book about the Alether Potion being a Special Item. Was this changed between editions? (I know that some problems in the first edition of FftD were corrected in later editions.)

In general, all potions are backpack items. Off hand, I cannot remember any exception to this rule in the original books.

 

[jeveutout]

I cannot find anything in the original book about the Alether Potion being a Special Item. Was this changed between editions? (I know that some problems in the first edition of FftD were corrected in later editions.)

oups...you're right
this is an errata in the french translation, (les Maitres des Ténèbres)
i should have verify with the english FFTD before posting, sorry.

 

[AguilaSaber]

Also.... does rope still count as 2 items?

An item counts as 1 item unless specifically stated otherwise.

As far as I can recall of all the ropes in the books I think only one rope in the previous editions counted as 2 items, so I'd expect that rope and sections to be changed in the new versions instead.

It may also be so that that rope was exceptionally long and therefore took 2 spaces.

 

[Angantyr]

Also.... does rope still count as 2 items?

An item counts as 1 item unless specifically stated otherwise.

As far as I can recall of all the ropes in the books I think only one rope in the previous editions counted as 2 items, so I'd expect that rope and sections to be changed in the new versions instead.

It may also be so that that rope was exceptionally long and therefore took 2 spaces.

These are the double-slot ropes in the original books:
http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/03tcok/sect38.htm
http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/03tcok/sect119.htm
http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/03tcok/sect223.htm

You can see that in both 38 and 223, the ropes are described as "long".

It may be an oversight that this rope only takes up one slot, since it should be more or less the same rope as in 119 and 223:
http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/03tcok/sect12.htm

 

[Angantyr]

While on the topic of errata... the new FftD doesn't say tell you how to record the Map of the Lastlands. The original explicitly said that it was a Special Item, but since none of the other books "starting maps" was, this is probably intentional and it is meant to stay in the Backpack. As the map is mentioned before the distinction between Backpack and Special Items is made, it is a bit unclear though.

The equipment section in the new book is in general less informative than in the original (which for instance said "Any item that may be of use and can be picked up on your adventure and entered on your Action Chart is given capital letters in the text. Unless you are told it is a Special Item, carry it in your Backpack.").

 

[MIK0]

While on the topic of errata... the new FftD doesn't say tell you how to record the Map of the Lastlands. The original explicitly said that it was a Special Item, but since none of the other books "starting maps" was, this is probably intentional and it is meant to stay in the Backpack. As the map is mentioned before the distinction between Backpack and Special Items is made, it is a bit unclear though.

The equipment section in the new book is in general less informative than in the original (which for instance said "Any item that may be of use and can be picked up on your adventure and entered on your Action Chart is given capital letters in the text. Unless you are told it is a Special Item, carry it in your Backpack.").

I noticed that too. It was more informative.

However if it's true that there's some error in the book regarding object or path this is an important matter.

 

[AguilaSaber]

A potential errata here. You are asked to pick a random number in section #138 and you get a +1 if you have Weaponskill (implying that higher number would normally be better)

Low number (section #313):
4 needed to survive; Hunting +1.
40% chance of death without Hunting(0,1,2,3); 30% with Hunting (0,1,2)

Middle number (section #549):
5 needed to survive; Hunting +2.
50% chance of death without Hunting(0,1,2,3,4); 30% with Hunting (0,1,2)

But the Low number and Middle number leads to exactly the same sections for passing and failing the second check.

High number avoids the second check.

I think section #549 should not have increased the numbers (compared to #313) needed to pass the checks since the implication is that you are worse off getting a middle number than a low number.

Chance to survive with hunting is same, but without the hunting skill you are 10% more likely to die when you picked the better number in the previous section.

 

[Greg Smith]

in monastery :
66, and discover the following items : (...) Gold Key

monastery lock : 453 if you possess a Gold Key, turn 104
104 you take the small golden key from your pack (...)

so there an error in 104, it should be "small Gold Key" instead of "small golden key".

I think in the first case it is the actual name of the item, while the second is descriptive (an so not capitalised). So this isn't really an error.

 

[Balgin Stondraeg]

in monastery :
66, and discover the following items : (...) Gold Key

monastery lock : 453 if you possess a Gold Key, turn 104
104 you take the small golden key from your pack (...)

so there an error in 104, it should be "small Gold Key" instead of "small golden key".

I think in the first case it is the actual name of the item, while the second is descriptive (an so not capitalised). So this isn't really an error.

Although the fact that it asks for the wrong key (and it is never explicitly stated that the other one is left behind in the monastery) implies that a player could cheat and use the same key twice on two very different locks (one of which seriously predates both the other lock and the key itself).