Crusade, WTF?

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Frohike

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been into B5 since it came out, but manged to avoid Crusade after the amount of critisim I read about it.

so, eventually, with nothing else to do I have sat through the majority of the series hoping for a few good episodes. There were a few ok ones but have just watched episode 12 - Visitors from down the street.

xfiles spoof in B5? I really cant believe it. My chin is bruised from hitting my ash tray. :shock:

edit: spelling, meh....
 
One of the best parts of that episode was that it settled the status of the 'prime directive' in Babylon 5... No such item. Consider it as a parody/homage of the 'gangster planet' Star Trek episode.
 
i totally got a kick out of that episode. if you get the series on dvd and listen to some of the commentary and stuff, that show apparently did not get any love from the network. they were forced to do some reshooting and ended up having to put some of the shows out of order which really caused some confusion. I thought the show was pretty good but it wasn't B5 and it wasn't Star Trek. Didn't do it for me but it was a good concept, I thought.
 
Frohike,

Give it a month or so, then watch Crusade again - it really does get better on the second viewing.
 
I've just started watching season 1: I've never seen it before, because free to air TV only ever seemed to air later seasons, but now I've got it on DVD. Now I know why they never aired it....................
 
captainsmirk said:
It was kind of scuppered by the fact that we already knew the outcome of their mission...
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But was the cure main part of crusade...From JMS comments cure might have been found as early as 2nd season...What of remaining seasons then?

It was scuppered by higher authorities screwing up the thing by not giving JMS free run with the writing like he had with B5.
 
Crusade had a lot of potential. It is interesting from a B5 completist's point of view, and there is some entertaining stuff in the few episodes that were made.

It had a couple of very bad episodes. It isn't ever going to stand up well against the whole B5 arc, or even any continuing sci-fi series, because it was cut brutally short.
 
captainsmirk said:
It was kind of scuppered by the fact that we already knew the outcome of their mission...


Nick
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Do we know the outcome? I don't remember ever seeing anything definent stating a cure was found. For all I know everyone on Earth was wiped out by the plague and the EA just repopulated it.
 
Greg Smith said:
Crusade had a lot of potential. It is interesting from a B5 completist's point of view, and there is some entertaining stuff in the few episodes that were made.

It had a couple of very bad episodes. It isn't ever going to stand up well against the whole B5 arc, or even any continuing sci-fi series, because it was cut brutally short.
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That´s how I see it, too. The boring Plague arc would have been replaced early on with a storyline of going up against the Shadowe Ops elements within Earth Gov, including nice duells with shadow hunters (action and drama), a more detailed look at the remnants of the Psi Corps, etc.

Already with the Call to Arms film, JMS wasn´t happy with the Drakh-plague cliffhanger, but had to do it because of what the network wanted. So, there are reasons why the series never took off - but then again, that doesn´t change the fact that many Crusade episodes are sub-standard.

But so were many parts of B5 season 1, or just about every first season in most TV shows.

It´s a pitty the show was cancelled, because it was pretty promising - and there still are a few really nice episodes in Crusade! I for one love the Techno mages episode with the holo deamons (and it´s interesting that the other mage was played by Peter Woodward´s father).

Well, let´s wait and see what the new DVDs add to the B5 universe, maybe things will finally turn out for the better again...
 
LordClinto said:
Do we know the outcome? I don't remember ever seeing anything definent stating a cure was found. For all I know everyone on Earth was wiped out by the plague and the EA just repopulated it.
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Apart from JMS's hint about cure being found sooner than you expected there's "slight" problem in your theory. 15 years(actually less) is probably too short time for the plague to go away so that Earth would be safe for recolonisation.
 
tneva82 said:
LordClinto said:
Do we know the outcome? I don't remember ever seeing anything definent stating a cure was found. For all I know everyone on Earth was wiped out by the plague and the EA just repopulated it.
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Apart from JMS's hint about cure being found sooner than you expected there's "slight" problem in your theory. 15 years(actually less) is probably too short time for the plague to go away so that Earth would be safe for recolonisation.
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Unless a cure is found after the 5 years are up. Or, a vaccine was found but already-infected people can't take it. Earth was wiped out, but repopulation would be possible.
 
Burger said:
Unless a cure is found after the 5 years are up. Or, a vaccine was found but already-infected people can't take it. Earth was wiped out, but repopulation would be possible.
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Fair enough. Still forgets about JMS's comments about cure's founding time...
 
I was always under the impression that the cure was found and put in place by the Excalibur crew before their time was up - the great burn that we see in Deconstruction of Falling Stars didn't happen until much later when the EA broke away from the ISA?
 
Alexb83 said:
I was always under the impression that the cure was found and put in place by the Excalibur crew before their time was up - the great burn that we see in Deconstruction of Falling Stars didn't happen until much later when the EA broke away from the ISA?
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Yup. There's no reason whatsoever to believe cure WASN'T found. And plenty of reason to believe "find the cure" was what crusade was about for about 2 seasons if that...

Then it would have probably gone to drakh war/EA specs op serie.
 
I think the glimpses of the future they had already produced for B5 meant that the cure was forced to be found before the deadline (plus if it couldn't be given to those already infected then its not a cure...). It would have been an event that would surely be remembered, but isn't mentioned in any of the future sequences and so they couldn't recon in very easily.

Plus it would be a pretty disasterous event if the whole of the Earth's population was destroyed since I imagine that it still makes up a significant majority of the total human population...


Nick
 
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