David St-Michel
Mongoose
treeplanter said:
I loved the Muppet Show.
And I still miss the genius of Jim Henson deeply.
Conan movie has a director?
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I loved the Muppet Show.
And I still miss the genius of Jim Henson deeply.
lots of interesting stuff in this thread!
not seeing Conan as huge? im re-reading my first Conan collection now and in almost every story he is described as towering above those surrounding him as well as being much broader. especially following descriptions in "The City of Skulls" where you can read that the guards escorting the princess are all well built soldiers who still seem small compared to both Conan and Juma.
the problem is there are very few actors who could fit that mould without just looking like body builders; at the time i thought Arnie was a superb choice, and in fact i still do: he had the bulk but also the litheness to pull the role off. The problem is much of the time with the bulk you lose the quickness of motion and pantherish movement so often associated with Conan. And of course, at the time, Arnie was still seen as foreign enough to be acceptable to the audience as a barbarian.
In todays age of actors i can imagine a Conan with a broad american accent and the usual "clan of scotsman" that are regularly pulled out of the 2nds hat to be warriors,barbarians,soldiers etc in almost every sword and sandles flick you care to mention.
as for the movies; again i enjoyed both. The first has recently enjoyed a revival in my viewing pleasures; in the UK the dvd release (original cinema release was before my time) was always edited. It was only when i recorded it off the tv one night that i saw the extra pieces like the ending where Conan carries off the princess. Those sections are now added into most UK dvd copies but originally they were not. I think they might have been US release edits; why it should be changed so significantly from the Uk to the US i dont know...but there ya go.
not seeing Conan as huge? im re-reading my first Conan collection now and in almost every story he is described as towering above those surrounding him as well as being much broader. especially following descriptions in "The City of Skulls" where you can read that the guards escorting the princess are all well built soldiers who still seem small compared to both Conan and Juma.
the problem is there are very few actors who could fit that mould without just looking like body builders; at the time i thought Arnie was a superb choice, and in fact i still do: he had the bulk but also the litheness to pull the role off. The problem is much of the time with the bulk you lose the quickness of motion and pantherish movement so often associated with Conan. And of course, at the time, Arnie was still seen as foreign enough to be acceptable to the audience as a barbarian.
In todays age of actors i can imagine a Conan with a broad american accent and the usual "clan of scotsman" that are regularly pulled out of the 2nds hat to be warriors,barbarians,soldiers etc in almost every sword and sandles flick you care to mention.
as for the movies; again i enjoyed both. The first has recently enjoyed a revival in my viewing pleasures; in the UK the dvd release (original cinema release was before my time) was always edited. It was only when i recorded it off the tv one night that i saw the extra pieces like the ending where Conan carries off the princess. Those sections are now added into most UK dvd copies but originally they were not. I think they might have been US release edits; why it should be changed so significantly from the Uk to the US i dont know...but there ya go.
Jotenbjorn
Mongoose
Perfect actor/director combo for conan? Samuel L. Jackson/Penny Marshall.
Failing that, John Cena/Peter Jackson would be great.
Failing that, John Cena/Peter Jackson would be great.
David St-Michel
Mongoose
John Cena?
Samuel L. Jackson?
*Heaves battleaxe, looks up to the skies*
Bori, have mercy on the souls I am about to send your way...
Samuel L. Jackson?
*Heaves battleaxe, looks up to the skies*
Bori, have mercy on the souls I am about to send your way...
treeplanter
Mongoose
I always tougth the Rock would make a great Conan
Ridley Scott has the vision. Given a decent dialogue (which the 80s films lacked) and a decent actor for Conan (ditto, though he did better in later films). In fact it'd need decent acting all round. With CGI to boost his height a little (like they did in reverse for the hobbits etc in LotR), Crowe would make a pretty decent latter day Conan.
A film based on The Slithering Shadow would be great. It's got just about enough in the story for an hour and a half so wouldn't need too much monkeying about with.
But it won't happen. We'll get some over-muscled oaf with poor delivery and a face carved from oak playing the lead and excessive CGI expected to divert attention from a ropey script and poor cast.
A film based on The Slithering Shadow would be great. It's got just about enough in the story for an hour and a half so wouldn't need too much monkeying about with.
But it won't happen. We'll get some over-muscled oaf with poor delivery and a face carved from oak playing the lead and excessive CGI expected to divert attention from a ropey script and poor cast.
Jotenbjorn
Mongoose
treeplanter said:
I've had that convo with a couple friends on several occasions. Conan has to be a white guy. The Rock can't play Conan any more than he could play D'Artagnon or Brad Pitt could play Shaka Zulu. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far. It's too bad though, because apart from skin color there's no man alive who could play Conan better. What I'd love to see the Rock in is Gilgamesh.
squidyak said:
id agree to a certain extent but if the film was a later life Conan, or during his adventures in Kush etc then a heavy tan might make the Rocks skin tone not as disagreeable as it might be. After all there are references to Conans skin tone being almost as dark as the natives in alot of stories due to sun.
ive been thinking about who might fit the bill...how about Jason Statham...obviously with a decent wig! LOL
the problem is alot of the "beefcake" actors of my youngers days are all nearly pensioners! LOL and i havent seen any films recently that have an actor with a suitable physique to suit Conan.
treeplanter
Mongoose
Hum that strange, I always imagined Conan as really heavy tanned, like the Rock, so I actually think his skin colour is a benefit
always depend on the perspective you have I guess
always depend on the perspective you have I guess
Jotenbjorn
Mongoose
Kortoso said:
Where he's from isn't the issue. The issue is his believability in coming from a certain region/culture. Cimmerians are very specifically described as being a light skinned people. If an actor couldn't pull off being a highlander, he pretty much can't pull off being a Cimmerian. The Rock couldn't pull off being a highlander. He could pull off being someone from the middle east.
And for the record he isn't purely Polynesian. His father was "Soul Man" Rocky Johnson, also known as the Sweet Ebony Diamond. How f'in cool is that for a nickname?
David St-Michel
Mongoose
I would -LOVE- to see a Conan movie done with a particular story, not a mish-mash of several of them.
Seeing the Tower of the Elephant would be awesome, I think.
Beyond Thunder River.
And the last would be, of course, the Hour of the Dragon.
Seeing the Tower of the Elephant would be awesome, I think.
Beyond Thunder River.
And the last would be, of course, the Hour of the Dragon.
Jotenbjorn
Mongoose
David St-Michel said:And the last would be, of course, the Hour of the Dragon.
I wish they'd bring Arnold back for King Conan, which would of course include Hour of the Dragon. His run as governator is almost up, so he'll be free. And he's a ham, so he'd totally do it.
