Asguard101
Mongoose
Da Boss said:
While I admit it's been a while since I last played SFB, couldn't a condor, under cloak, make a turn in SFB?
Cloaking Condors
- Thread starter nekomata fuyu
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While I admit it's been a while since I last played SFB, couldn't a condor, under cloak, make a turn in SFB?
Asguard101:
Da Boss:
Thanks. That's exactly what I said, but much better worded.
Da Boss:
Which suggestion? The one Asguard said better above? Yes, that's exactly what it would mean. A Fed DN with turn mode of 9" can't turn under power drain, but this rule would allow it to move its 6" max and still get one 45-deg turn. By "I would hope not", are you saying you disagree? Why so?
Well, no, because even tho a DN w/ turn-mode of 9" could make a 45-deg turn after 4.5", it counts AS IF it had moved 9". As the max movement is 6" under Power Drain, it don't have the range.Da Boss said:
Just to make clear: it would be one rule or the other. I am NOT suggestion putting BOTH rules in the game. The always allowed one 45-deg turn is simplier and probably the better way to go.
Keeper Nilbog
Mongoose
Remember, you don't have to take the movement restriction for Power Drain - most Gorn, Romulan and Federation ships aren't that put out - you just choose 'Phaser's only' (especially the plasma races - no other secondary systems). So still have full movement.
Keeper Nilbog said:
So far haven't used the 6" only all that much. Only times I have used it has been when either 6" has been enough ANYWAY and might just as well toss that 1-2 drones anyway or if I have been preparing against major drone strike.
Nice when feds have plenty of phasers
AdmiralGrafSpee
Mongoose
Asguard101 said:
Love it! Really just makes ships with terrible turn mode a bit more playable. It also helps with a kind of major logic error in ACTA:SF.
Of course I really wish they had just stuck with the Noble Armada modes of turning instead of coming up with something new.
nekomata fuyu
Mongoose
Would the ACTANA system be similar to ACTAB5 by any chance? (You're told how many turns you get to make, have to move half your speed before the first one, then 2" between any further turns.)
Sgt_G said:
Well I have never got into situation where opponent has been kind enough to put his ships so that 6" move + 6" range + F arc allows to use that. Short of ship with some serious criticals preventing movement klingons generally can just dance around ensuring that tight requirements not to meet.
Overload is seriously opportunistic thing. Not something to bank on. Especially vs klingons, fleets composed mainly of frigates and destroyers etc.
Where I might be able to pull it off is vs cloaked romulans. Or romulans who just decloaked. But haven't had chance to try vs that yet.
Also doesn't really help most of the time I have photon banks empty :lol:. Fire when get them into range, then often using boost shields or all power to engine with phaser's only power drain effect.
nekomata fuyu
Mongoose
Overload torps on a FFB, and point it at an area where you don't want the enemy to go. You can almost hear Samuel L Jackson saying "I dare you. I DOUBLE dare you!"
Captain Jonah
Mongoose
My vote goes for the make a single 45 degree turn at the end of your move regardless of how far you moved.
If you turn on the spot you move zero or you can move 3" or 6" and then turn once when you end the move.
Going back to SFB/FC yes cloaked ships could turn under a cloak. Turning was a function both of the ship and its speed. So even the least nimble ships could cloak and turn a bit. The idea that a ship cloaks and then has to stop simply to turn 45 degrees is somewhat odd. Physics doesn't work that way :roll:
It reduced the Condor to a base attack unit not a fleet unit.
I am more than happy that Lumbering has gone from the Gorn cruisers. But it has left some odd results with the DNs. We could always just nerf the Fed Klingon and Rom K9 DNs to balance against the Gorn and Kzinti
:wink:
If you turn on the spot you move zero or you can move 3" or 6" and then turn once when you end the move.
Going back to SFB/FC yes cloaked ships could turn under a cloak. Turning was a function both of the ship and its speed. So even the least nimble ships could cloak and turn a bit. The idea that a ship cloaks and then has to stop simply to turn 45 degrees is somewhat odd. Physics doesn't work that way :roll:
It reduced the Condor to a base attack unit not a fleet unit.
I am more than happy that Lumbering has gone from the Gorn cruisers. But it has left some odd results with the DNs. We could always just nerf the Fed Klingon and Rom K9 DNs to balance against the Gorn and Kzinti
:wink:Captain Jonah said:My vote goes for the make a single 45 degree turn at the end of your move regardless of how far you moved.
If you turn on the spot you move zero or you can move 3" or 6" and then turn once when you end the move.
Going back to SFB/FC yes cloaked ships could turn under a cloak. Turning was a function both of the ship and its speed. So even the least nimble ships could cloak and turn a bit. The idea that a ship cloaks and then has to stop simply to turn 45 degrees is somewhat odd. Physics doesn't work that way :roll:
It reduced the Condor to a base attack unit not a fleet unit.
I am more than happy that Lumbering has gone from the Gorn cruisers. But it has left some odd results with the DNs. We could always just nerf the Fed Klingon and Rom K9 DNs to balance against the Gorn and Kzinti
Not sure what physics has got to do with Star Trek ..........As I mentioned claoking vessels do receive other compensations - jumping terrain is pretty cool...........
