Can De-crewed ships be boarded?

[Methos5000]

If a ship still has some hull damage available but no crew or troops can it be boarded by enemy ships since it would be running adrift?

And at what point is the ship considered "destroyed" for VP purposes? Is a de-crewed ship still considered live or once it is de-crewed is it considered destroyed for VP purposes?

It has come up a couple times with my group so I thought I would ask.

 

[Destroid]

I'd say it'd be pretty pointless to board it after a ship has been de-crewed, though this would be interesting if you did that in a campaign game and then lost through withdrawing all your other ships.

For VP purposes I'd say it'd count as destroyed, though I could well be wrong w/out a rulebook handy

As a side note in a campaign if it was your ship and you won you would be able to get it repaired and recrewed.

 

[Burger]

Matt ruled "yes" at the tournament last weekend. It can be boarded, for double VP and XP (in campaigns).

The defending troops all die along with the last crew member unfortunately, despite my claims that some were still alive holed up in a bunker somewhere in the drifting ship.

 

[Wulf Corbett]

Matt ruled "yes" at the tournament last weekend. It can be boarded, for double VP and XP (in campaigns).

Did he rule specifically how? I imagine you would actually have to board during the game - you don't just automatically do so after the game ends.

Wulf

 

[Burger]

Matt ruled "yes" at the tournament last weekend. It can be boarded, for double VP and XP (in campaigns).

Did he rule specifically how? I imagine you would actually have to board during the game - you don't just automatically do so after the game ends.

Well during the game would seem pretty obvious, although he didn't explicitly say that.

 

[Locutus9956]

Id assume you have to actually board the ship either with a special order or a flight of breaching pods to get the extra vps. Otherwise drifting ships are far too much of a victory point goldmine

 

[CodeofArms]

Can you board your own ships with troops to get them going again?

 

[Slightly Norse John]

Not with troops, no, because they can't operate the ship.
I have, against my better judgement, house- rule allowed transferring of crew, once- mainly because the player involved was doing catastrophically badly and needed a little slack cut for him.
I have regretted it since, because it is highly abusable and bad precedent.
Under the rules; no.
What the heck, do it anyway; tried and failed, no.

 

[CodeofArms]

I have, against my better judgement, house- rule allowed transferring of crew, once- mainly because the player involved was doing catastrophically badly and needed a little slack cut for him. I have regretted it since...

You're too nice; be ruthless :wink:

 

[Slightly Norse John]

Aaron is the guy (he's 16-17ish) who got an SFoS Victory into boresight with a Shadow Omega, fired lightning cannon and forward neutrons at it (you can't do this any more), fourteen dice of Beam hitting on 4+- and got a grand total of one neutron hit. Which would have bulkheaded, if it could. He may well be beyond help.
Some house rules work, and some don't. Picture self- repairing craft able to do this, particularly from a non self repairing craft. Cheese.

 

[Locutus9956]

We're talking about boarding actions with troops in the original question SNJ not crew. And for the record you CAN board friendly ships with troops it specifically SAYS you can do so in SFoS.

But there is no way of transfering crew and your right that WOULD be highly open to abuse. Troops cant fly ships though and boarding a ship with more of them just makes that ship harder to wipe out by enemy boarding actions

 

[Burger]

But there is no way of transfering crew and your right that WOULD be highly open to abuse.

A T'Loth or something flying next to my White Stars would be very useful!! :lol:

 

[Wulf Corbett]

We're talking about boarding actions with troops in the original question SNJ not crew. And for the record you CAN board friendly ships with troops it specifically SAYS you can do so in SFoS.

It says you can in support of Troops already combatting enemy Troops on board, I don't remember any comment about transferring Troops either.

Wulf

 

[H]

But there is no way of transfering crew and your right that WOULD be highly open to abuse.

A T'Loth or something flying next to my White Stars would be very useful!! :lol:

for the whole 1/3rd of a round the T'Loth can keep up ;-)

 

[Locutus9956]

We're talking about boarding actions with troops in the original question SNJ not crew. And for the record you CAN board friendly ships with troops it specifically SAYS you can do so in SFoS.

It says you can in support of Troops already combatting enemy Troops on board, I don't remember any comment about transferring Troops either.

Wulf

Well tbh it strikes me that if you can do it then theres no reason you cant do it any other time. Just leaves your other ships a bit more open to attack.

 

[Wulf Corbett]

Well tbh it strikes me that if you can do it then theres no reason you cant do it any other time. Just leaves your other ships a bit more open to attack.

While it's logical, so is transferring Crew. This is at least hinted at by an existing rule (which transferring Crew isn't), but still isn't IN the actual rule...

Wulf

 

[Locutus9956]

true but neither is it banned whereas there is no mechanism whatsoever for transfering crew anywhere in the game.

With troops its just a matter of using an existing rule and what is a legitimate 'target' for that rule, wheras to transfer crew your effectively talking about inventing a whole new rule (or more precisely saying that any such rule would be a very bad idea (which Im inclined to agree with )

 

[Wulf Corbett]

true but neither is it banned whereas there is no mechanism whatsoever for transfering crew anywhere in the game.

You can replace Crew or Troops between campaign turns.

Wulf

 

[Locutus9956]

also true but you cant TRANSFER it to another ship you can only buy new cant you?

 

[Wulf Corbett]

also true but you cant TRANSFER it to another ship you can only buy new cant you?

True. It's a decent houserule, but I would only allow it between campaign turns, myself.

Wulf