Ancient(s)

[Dave Chase]

Well, I have been trying to tell you that the whole Grandfather thing is one big LIE.
He's been lying to you all along and just don't hear it.

SIGH.


But you just can seem to hear me or see me. Argh,

You're slightly out of phase with normal reality. I can detect you through your neutrino signature.

Darn it. I knew I should have not been playing around with the Phase ball from the Mechaniods (R) game.

Dave Chase

 

[dayriff]

What I don't get is the tendency to take Marc at his word and believe that the Ancients were a singular race. The precursor races should be just as numerious as minor races are in the contemporary OTU. True, they might not climb as high as the Droyne in their technological progression but each race might take a different tack to technology. What would a civilization entirely based upon biotech or biomechnanical look like?

I'm pretty heavily influenced by Andre Norton's sci-fi (already old when I was young, but my local library had a lot of it), so I'm all for the idea of multiple Ancients. I like the idea of a layered Galactic history, with many civilizations rising only to crash, transcend, decay, or otherwise vanish.

 

[Anonymous]

I think that he (and most of the other elder ones)are far less concerned with literary canon than with having a good setting; good being defined by their terms, obviously.

Yup.

Anyone who thinks canon should not change over the (many) past years is going to be in one one hell of a shock over the next few years. . .

That is brilliant and exciting news.

May I humbly request that this is done retaining the internal consistency and "hard" sf feel that is a big part of what defines traveller. Traveller players who I know find it important to their immersion in the game (immersion=buying stuff) that it all makes sense...(e.g. how did the inhabitants get their equipment to the repair centre.....why would the enemies be hiding in a particular place, how many doors would you want between where you live/work and an area frequently open to vacuum....etc)

 

[alex_greene]

I love the fact that Mongoose has plans to hold on to the Traveller licence for years.

Traveller is back and, one hopes, is back to stay,

Heh. I just thought. I'm one of a generation of people who fondly remembers CT. In time, we will be a dwindling few, to be replaced by a generation for whom CT, MT, TNE and GURPS Traveller will be historical oddities: a generation of gamers for whom Mongoose Traveller will be their CT: their one true love SFRPG.

And what that means for me and mine is that we are the Ancients.

 

[Infojunky]

And what that means for me and mine is that we are the Ancients.

Now that make me happy...... Forget the flame wars I'm throwing rocks....

 

[alex_greene]

Try dropping them from orbit. Loads more fun, especially if you drill holes into them and pack some canisters of cobalt and lithium deuteride for that extra little fusion bang, for a laugh.

Best of all, forget the rocks. If the enemy's sitting on a lovely garden world, just shift its orbit a few million miles away from its primary star.

Ancients. For the fun of snowball fights with real comets.

 

[captainjack23]

Try dropping them from orbit. Loads more fun, especially if you drill holes into them and pack some canisters of cobalt and lithium deuteride for that extra little fusion bang, for a laugh.

Hmmm. Would that work ? enough compression/heat ? Mean and nasty if so; although, I suppose the fusion wouldn't add much to a big asteroid -but would add a fallout plume of nasty radioactives from the cobolt and the asteroid......:shock:

Best of all, forget the rocks. If the enemy's sitting on a lovely garden world, just shift its orbit a few million miles away from its primary star.

Ancients. For the fun of snowball fights with real comets.

And, doing it whilst wearing comfortable Aslan shoes, and raking the new asteroid belt garden, too..... :wink:

 

[Jame Rowe]

I'm starting to think that the Ancients weren't the only starfarers before humanity...

 

[kafka]

I'm starting to think that the Ancients weren't the only starfarers before humanity...

It also depends how you define Humaniti. The Ancients also had humans as travelling companions. It is concievable that some of these hairless monkeys were clever enough to pilot starships even some time after the lizards had vanished from the scene.

If you have been following T5 there is a suggestion of what Signal GK was persuing with their sub-Major Race.

The OTU had to have a starting point, just like Greorgian calendar uses the the birth of Christ as a Year Zero. This certainly does not mean that history began there. So, I view the Ancients the same way for the OTU. They are in effect Year Zero what happened before it has been lost in the sands of time and from the vantage point of the 56-58th Century AD (the default present for Traveller), it is just too long ago to reconstruct...no more than present day science can fanthom whether the dinosaurs formed communities or simply were herds.

Plus, Imperial Scientists are lazy anything around -300,000 is just Ancient. Until Time Travel comes to Traveller (which one hopes it does not) those civilizations active of the time of the Ancients and those before remain as artifacts of a forgotten civilization or maybe the Droyne know but they are not telling anyone.

 

[AndrewW]

Plus, Imperial Scientists are lazy anything around -300,000 is just Ancient. Until Time Travel comes to Traveller (which one hopes it does not) those civilizations active of the time of the Ancients and those before remain as artifacts of a forgotten civilization or maybe the Droyne know but they are not telling anyone.

Well, there is Book 4: Psion coming out...

 

[captainjack23]

I'm starting to think that the Ancients weren't the only starfarers before humanity...

Well there were those odd reptilian types from Shadows, they predate the Vilanii by quite a bit, and seem to have FTL of some kind, as they had quite a distribution as I recall.

 

[GypsyComet]

I'm starting to think that the Ancients weren't the only starfarers before humanity...

Well there were those odd reptilian types from Shadows, they predate the Vilanii by quite a bit, and seem to have FTL of some kind, as they had quite a distribution as I recall.

I thought those were the proto-Hkhar.

 

[captainjack23]

I'm starting to think that the Ancients weren't the only starfarers before humanity...

Well there were those odd reptilian types from Shadows, they predate the Vilanii by quite a bit, and seem to have FTL of some kind, as they had quite a distribution as I recall.

I thought those were the proto-Hkhar.

Oh yeah - was that link ever made explicit ? I mean, I'm not arguing, how many almost three legged reptilian carnivore live prey eating corrosive breathing dudes can there be ?

 

[barasawa]

Ah. Sit down, strap in, hold on, stop screaming. Lets see what this baby will do, eh ? Typical Jag owner.

Shouldn't you have said that before stomping on the accelerator? :lol: