Ammunition has no weight?

[Matrix Cypher]

Is it just me?

But I cant find the weight of small arms ammo anywhere.

Is it like most computer games that ammo does not weigh anything???

Come on now, ammo weights a significant amount, and who here thinks that pcs and npcs only carry whats in the gun.

Am I gonna have to go thru all of the old CT books and MT books to make my own list.

One would of thought that this could of been a simple column added right next to cost of the ammo in the weapon lists.

Maybe this will be in errata?!

 

[dreamingbadger]

You get some weights in CSC on page 52 ( well 2 really) for pistols... but nothing else whoops!

 

[Gee4orce]

IMO this is one of the big advantages of laser weapons - the ammo weighs nothing (OK, the powerpack that stores the ammo does, but…). And, for a star-spanning military, there are no logistical problems keeping troops supplied with ammo - all they need is access to a powerplant.

 

[AndrewW]

IMO this is one of the big advantages of laser weapons - the ammo weighs nothing (OK, the powerpack that stores the ammo does, but…). And, for a star-spanning military, there are no logistical problems keeping troops supplied with ammo - all they need is access to a powerplant.

But out in the field if the power pack runs out then you are out of ammo until you can get it recharged. Or carry around a spare powerpack and right back to weight. Though it is a bit nicer without the ship having to carry all that extra ammunition it might otherwise need.

 

[Vile]

I really would like to see some ammo weights, though. I know they are incredibly hard to get hold of, because a lot of the data available these days relates only to bullet weights and powder charges. Maybe some kind souls in the less gun-phobic nations could delve into their supply and make use of some electronic scales? :wink:

 

[dreamingbadger]

If you have the Guns Guns Guns supplement, there is a huge list of ammo weights (per round) and magazine weights... that said, MGT should have this as a kit list as well.

I have one player, an ex-Marine who firmly believes that you can never carry too much ammo, and if you can't move you are not carrying enough ammo, you merely require logistical support

 

[Sevya]

OK, I just got a hold of a scale, so here's the weights on the ammo I have. These are still not overly exact; I was using a postal scale that measures in ounces (oz) and I converted to grams (g). A full 30 round magazine for an AK-47 (7.62x39mm), loaded with fully jacketed ball ammo, weighs 29.5 oz, or about 836 g. A single bullet looked like about 0.75 oz, or 21.25 g. A full 30 round magazine for an M-1 carbine (7.62x33mm), loaded with fully jacketed ball ammo, weighs 18 oz, or about 510 g. A 15 round magazine weighs 9.5 oz or 269 g. A single bullet looked like about 0.5 oz, or 14.18 g. Those are the only firearms I own, so that's what I can offer right now. I hope this gives a little real-world perspective.

Sevya

 

[Vile]

That's great, Sevya! That takes care of a lot of combat rifle stuff, plenty good enough as far as RPG accuracy levels are concerned.

Now, please go out again, I have a shopping list for you:

Self-loading shotgun (anything will do, but Bennellis are pretty)
Glock 9mm
Desert Eagle .50" (hey, Travellers need big handgun calibres)
9mm H&K SMG
.458" magnum rifle (I don't think there are any with box magazines, though ...

You wouldn't be able to get your hands on a Barrett Light 50, would you?
:twisted:

 

[dreamingbadger]

http://www.belmontammunition.co.nz/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=6&Itemid=5

from a mail order company

and this i think does most of what people want:

http://pmulcahy.100megs3.com/ammunition/ammunition.htm

 

[Matrix Cypher]

Using Paul's site, and old CT traveller, and TNE traveller I am getting what I need. Takes a little bit of work. Keeping it simple is the Idea.

It helps that I am presently running a Twilight 2000/Traveller TNE Game at this time. So I do have all the stuff handy.

Though the real world and work are not being nice and letting me have a whole lot of free time to do what I want .

If I can get it into a simple format. I will post it here for the rest of you to use. Right now I am just penciling it in my books (including the Central Supply Catalog).

 

[Vile]

This is great stuff - I think I've got what I need. Now MGT just needs to put out another errata PDF. :wink:

 

[Sevya]

That's great, Sevya! That takes care of a lot of combat rifle stuff, plenty good enough as far as RPG accuracy levels are concerned.

Now, please go out again, I have a shopping list for you:

Self-loading shotgun (anything will do, but Bennellis are pretty)
Glock 9mm
Desert Eagle .50" (hey, Travellers need big handgun calibres)
9mm H&K SMG
.458" magnum rifle (I don't think there are any with box magazines, though ...

You wouldn't be able to get your hands on a Barrett Light 50, would you?
:twisted:

I'll see what my father-in-law has. He prefers .45 for pistols, and he has a Mac 10 rather than an MP-5. As for the Barrett, I may be able to weigh the ammo at a gun store...


Sevya

 

[Gruffty the Hiver]

I got interested in round wieghts and found this:

http://ammoguide.com/

The Wikipedia article on the Barrett .50 gives plenty of detail:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_M82

and if you click on the link to the .50 BMG round in the Barrett's info box it takes you to the Wikipedia page for that round:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_BMG

where it gives weights for some variant rounds and other useful, crunchy data...

...which was obtained from the link to the first site (top of this post).