[ACTASF]Anyone else seeing a lot of problems with the minis?

Had 3 fleet boxes so far. The resin fed was all there but had fatal miscasts.

The Metal replacement Fed box had 4 rights engines and no lefts on the heavy cruisers. This was somewhat ironic as it was the left engines on the resins that were blown too amongst other bits. Still waiting for replacement replacements even now.

Klingon fleet was totally complete. Except for the book. Had 2 anyway so wasn't too bothered.

Bought a few singles at salute but could inspect the packs on the table as I bought them. Didn't see any mistakes on any of those at all.

Geoff
 
My concerns so far:

My local brick and mortar (Las Vegas, NV, USA) cannot get any from her distributor.

I am a cat fan and I am waiting for Kzinti... :mrgreen:

I prefer resin (Dystopian Wars quality) over metsl on anything that is top-heavy on a narrow stand, especially in a hazard-rich (clumsy, kitties, kiddies) playing environment. Though I am subject ony to the first of the three :mrgreen:
 
So.. I'm unclear - are the new / 'current' minis being sold by Mongoose metal or resin?

Because I just got a box of resin figures in the post..
 
Apart from the Condor and C8/KC9R, all ships are metal now. There are still some resin ships in the supply chain, but these will run out at some point.

Going through the metal replacement ships I got for my Fed fleet box at the moment. OK so far, and I'm putting the dreadnought together.

Once I've got the ships done I've got enough miscasts to do a serious wreck collection.
 
Ben2 said:
Once I've got the ships done I've got enough miscasts to do a serious wreck collection.
I have been building all my miscasts and fixing them as best I could.

From the six squadron boxes, two fleet boxes and three command cruisers I received (65 ships), I ended up with 82 ships. That means I ended up replacing 17 of them in total. That works out to about 26% of the ships with problems.

They've gotten a lot better since they went metal, but I still had some issues. Out of two fleet boxes I had three bad ships and was missing one shuttle. But when my fed fleet box first arrived, it was resin. It was so bad I just sent the whole thing back and asked to get a metal set instead. Very glad that I did.

Anyway, I've been fixing up the miscasts (which usually takes about 3 hours per ship). They can turn out pretty reasonable as seen by the USS Austrailia here:

Repairing the USS Australia
 
I now wish I'd returned my resin fleet box for a replacement. I think all of the good karma I spent by getting 6 good squadron boxes and a passel of really great looking, pre-production minis to paint was repaid with that one box.

I chose to work with it so I'd have them done by NashCon (two weeks away now), rather than wait and hope I got replacemnts in time to paint. But everytime I sit down to work on them, I get frustrated and go on to something else.
I currently have over 50 Klingon minis (mostly metal) base-coated and two Romulan Sqaudron boxes primed... but only 30% of the Fed fleet box is even assembled right now and none of it is painted.
 
scoutdad said:
but only 30% of the Fed fleet box is even assembled right now and none of it is painted.

Oh man, you have your work cut out for you. Any chance of having someone from your local group help clean up/assemble some ships, perhaps prime them?
 
I have found with almost all my ships bigger then a frigate that I have to widen the slot for the ball socket to go in, and fitting the Nacelles...
However the models are really nice, and even with just a base coat look nice :D
A few windows/portholes are hard to make out, but it's not that bad, as when painted is not noticeable. Just give us Ambassadors and Excelsior II/Enterprise B's :P.
Is there ever a chance of you guys being able to get a license for the later periods?
 
Zarathustra Suicune said:
Is there ever a chance of you guys being able to get a license for the later periods?

From what I've heard Steve Cole say before, basically no chance. Paramount wants a fortune for a 5-year license. Nobody can afford to renew it... ADB has a non-expiring license, so long as they stick to certain things/areas. Next Gen/DS9/Voyager/Enterprise or any of the movies aren't allowed.
 
Zarathustra Suicune said:
I have found with almost all my ships bigger then a frigate that I have to widen the slot for the ball socket to go in, and fitting the Nacelles...
However the models are really nice, and even with just a base coat look nice :D
A few windows/portholes are hard to make out, but it's not that bad, as when painted is not noticeable. Just give us Ambassadors and Excelsior II/Enterprise B's :P.
Is there ever a chance of you guys being able to get a license for the later periods?

Excelsiors are massive in this scale. You don't get an appreciation for how much longer they are than the Constitutions until you see the models side by side.

But I think there is very little chance of that, as the licence is too expensive, and there is already the Wizkids products.
 
That is a shame as they are my favourite ship classes :( and the whizzkids thing does not look that good...
Guess we should be glad ADB have the one they have, who knows if Call to arms:Star fleet really takes off paramount could change their mind :P
Part of me just thought, would you ever be able to make introduce the ship that was mentionedin Deep Space nine, but was from the Original series era and instead of a saucer section had a sphere section? I cannot for the life of me remeber it's name, only seeing it in a book my mum had years ago.
 
Zarathustra Suicune said:
That is a shame as they are my favourite ship classes :( and the whizzkids thing does not look that good...
Guess we should be glad ADB have the one they have, who knows if Call to arms:Star fleet really takes off paramount could change their mind :P
Part of me just thought, would you ever be able to make introduce the ship that was mentionedin Deep Space nine, but was from the Original series era and instead of a saucer section had a sphere section? I cannot for the life of me remeber it's name, only seeing it in a book my mum had years ago.

That would be the Daedulus class. I think it would still be outside the licence (the Texas class and it's previous versions fills that gap in the SFU background).
 
Zarathustra Suicune said:
who knows if Call to arms:Star fleet really takes off paramount could change their mind :P
Any increase in popularity would sadly only encourage Paramount to demand more money. I think it's safe to say that anything outside the already existing licence is will be off limits until such a time that copyright law is fixed. Which will probably be never...
 
Zarathustra Suicune said:
Part of me just thought, would you ever be able to make introduce the ship that was mentionedin Deep Space nine, but was from the Original series era and instead of a saucer section had a sphere section? I cannot for the life of me remeber it's name, only seeing it in a book my mum had years ago.
The one I'm thinking of is a pre-production design for the Enterprise shown in the article Designing the Starship Enterprise. I wonder whether the spherical hull versions, or any of the other pre-production sketches shown there, could be used within the licence?
 
On topic....

I've just taken delivery of a Klingon fleet box. Originally I had one of the early, all-resin Klingon squadron boxes back in December (?).

The difference between the two is remarkable. I had to send back/get replacements for many of the original resin casts for having bad joints, huge amounts of flash, heavy resin blobs, LOTS of destructive bubbles and had continual problems with the tall 'bit' behind the command pod - it attracted bubbles like nothing else on almost every model.

The new metal models are very different. Ok, some of the detail on the resin _may_ be crisper BUT the models are so nicely (trad. usage) done and well-detailed that once an undercoat is on you can't really tell the difference. A couple of booms were bent (but VERY easily straightened and you now can't tell), one of the F6's nacelles was bent (which is proving difficult to straighten), and two ships (D7's I think) had mould-blob/detail issues at the rear of the main hull under the shuttle/drone housing. The new mould of the Klingon dreadnought (boom/bridge/hull in one piece in resin with metal nacelles) was very good and went together easily - the only problem is that upright pod, again.

I've experimented with filling the joints on the metal models, but the problem is the joins are so good, the crack is too fine to hold the filler! I've also experimented with using superglue rather than epoxy to join the nacelles to the hulls, with a great deal of success.

The difference is remarkable, and I'm really pleased with the metal versions of the Klingons. They really are worth it.
 
Zarathustra Suicune said:
Must admit I like the idea of basically the Constitution flipped over :P
It's funny how one of those sketches looks like a klingon D7.

When they were designing the original Enterprise for the show Gene Rodenberry actually prefered the ship upside down! Matt Jeffries who designed the thing had to sell the NBC execs and Rodenberry on it being the 'right way up' as we know it now.

Amazing what pointless info you come across in the internet when looking for original pics for colour reference!

Geoff
 
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