Accommodation option question

[Annatar Giftbringer]

all staterooms and barracks include a small food preparation unit. Laundry facilities are usually located in a common area.

Would it be reasonable to assume that the above means that each stateroom aboard a ship could be equipped with an autochef (CSC p.94) and common rooms with one or several autolaundy units, and perhaps an autobar as standard?

 

[Jeraa]

all staterooms and barracks include a small food preparation unit. Laundry facilities are usually located in a common area.

Would it be reasonable to assume that the above means that each stateroom aboard a ship could be equipped with an autochef (CSC p.94) and common rooms with one or several autolaundy units, and perhaps an autobar as standard?

The cost and assumed sizes of those units (based on their given weight) are pretty much negligible compared to the costs and sizes of the staterooms/common areas. I don't see any problem with allowing them on ships, either as an upgrade over standard facilities or as a standard inclusion.

For that matter, the opening paragraph of that section:

The personal living space of a Traveller speaks to his personality and there are many items that can be purchased that allow a Traveller to express himself in this way. Many are curiosities, some are simply designed to make life a little easier or comfier. The equipment in this chapter is intended for Travellers who wish to decorate their homes with the best the galaxy can offer – even if that home is a stateroom on board a tramp freighter far out in uncharted space.

So yeah, they are possible on ships.

 

[legozhodani]

I'm pleased to say that's the first section that got hit by my players. Pa! Who needs guns and armour, there's a auto dresser and style gadget yay!

Made me proud.

 

[AndrewW]

Would it be reasonable to assume that the above means that each stateroom aboard a ship could be equipped with an autochef (CSC p.94) and common rooms with one or several autolaundy units, and perhaps an autobar as standard?

Yes, that would be a reasonable assumption, don't see any problem with it.

 

[RIPBriggs]

all staterooms and barracks include a small food preparation unit. Laundry facilities are usually located in a common area.

Would it be reasonable to assume that the above means that each stateroom aboard a ship could be equipped with an autochef (CSC p.94) and common rooms with one or several autolaundy units, and perhaps an autobar as standard?

I'd certainly say so; though to be fair, everywhere else Staterooms are mentioned, they're described as having a small kitchen area; which to my mind implies something a (little bit) grander - and at 0.1Mcr per dton of space, non of those will break the bank - after all, at 0.1Mcr per dton, you're allowed a fully-functioning cinema...

Some people might object that there's not enough room for a 'kitchen' though - what with the 10ft long Single-bed, and the chair big enough to make Santa Claus drool, taking up all the space


RIPBriggs

 

[Condottiere]

I'm inclined to think a microwave and a fridge.

 

[legozhodani]

Kettle for all the pot noodles.

 

[Condottiere]

 

[Annatar Giftbringer]

I'm inclined to think a microwave and a fridge.

Couldn't the autochef be considered the high tech futuristic version of microwave and fridge, though? Something like that was my first idea too, but autochef sure sounds suitable.

Of course there could be a proper mini-kitchen, but would it be necessary, and do people use kitchens like the ones we know, in the 52nd or whatever century?

 

[legozhodani]

As I often remind players, such weird things as fresh food or cookers would no doubt be odd to most tech 10+ people. I often make players without steward or survival be a bit hapless at dealing with things such a dirt, real fires and real food.

Many of our team eat D. don't ask, menu B.

 

[RIPBriggs]

I'm inclined to think a microwave and a fridge.

Couldn't the autochef be considered the high tech futuristic version of microwave and fridge, though? Something like that was my first idea too, but autochef sure sounds suitable.

Of course there could be a proper mini-kitchen, but would it be necessary, and do people use kitchens like the ones we know, in the 52nd or whatever century?

Well, the description does say it requires to be fed ingredients, but other than that, its description is vague enough to happily cover anything your imagination desires.

 

[Condottiere]

Needs only one ingredient.

 

[legozhodani]

I know a good few who would reject that meal.

Too much weird green stuff on the food for their liking.

 

[AndrewW]

Some people might object that there's not enough room for a 'kitchen' though - what with the 10ft long Single-bed, and the chair big enough to make Santa Claus drool, taking up all the space

Beds, tables and such could retract or fold up to get it out of the way.

 

[RIPBriggs]

Some people might object that there's not enough room for a 'kitchen' though - what with the 10ft long Single-bed, and the chair big enough to make Santa Claus drool, taking up all the space

Beds, tables and such could retract or fold up to get it out of the way.

Interesting notion. Which brings to mind:

This thread... http://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=119875 which raises the question of 5 dton Staterooms (for 4 people) - it's not 'strictly' allowed, but I can't think of a good reason not to.

A Bridge can be shrank (with a negative modifier to rolls)
Barracks are 8 tons for 4 people (no negatives)
High Staterooms are 6 tons (and grant a bonus to rolls, with no mention of how many people would be housed.)
A 10 ton Stable can house 20 people/slaves, and...
An airlock can be expanded to an unspecified size (with unspecified results to cycling time, or number of occupants cycled)

Outside of 'anything goes' House Rules, are there any recommendations on non-standardised rooms?

 

[steve98052]

As I often remind players, such weird things as fresh food or cookers would no doubt be odd to most tech 10+ people. I often make players without steward or survival be a bit hapless at dealing with things such a dirt, real fires and real food.

Related to this, but not the main accommodation topic, I would be inclined to rule that driving is not a default skill above our current technology level. A child born today will have no more reason to drive a car than to ride a horse; people will still drive cars in ten years, but only because they want to; if they don't want to, the car will drive itself. The time it takes for driving to become a recreational skill rather than routine transportation will depend on whether retrofit kits are affordable; they would greatly accelerate the decline of human driving.

 

[Infojunky]

Would it be reasonable to assume that the above means that each stateroom aboard a ship could be equipped with an autochef (CSC p.94) and common rooms with one or several autolaundy units, and perhaps an autobar as standard?

Actually The reverse makes more sense to me. A Auto-Valet (Auto Laundry) as part of the Fresher and Autochef in the common area. Now I could see a Autobar in every stateroom and common area.

 

[Galadrion]

The time it takes for driving to become a recreational skill rather than routine transportation will depend on whether retrofit kits are affordable; they would greatly accelerate the decline of human driving.

Having seen the roads around here, and especially the way people are "driving" after less than a foot of snowfall, I'm inclined to say that human driving has already declined...

 

[Subzero001]

what about the food processor in fifth element?

https://giphy.com/search/chicken-good/ li-lu's chicken... :shock:

 

[Annatar Giftbringer]

Thanks for the replies everyone!

I'm leaning towards installing an autochef and an autobar in each stateroom, possibly with limited menues or some items locked behind pay-walls (Want a cup of coffe, sure. Beer? That'll cost ya!) Possibly some options will be available in limited amounts, such as one luxury meal per passenger and trip, the rest of the food, well... adequate. Same with drinks, some beverages would probably be more limited than others, refills are available, at a price of course (like the minibar in a hotel room).

The common rooms will have autolaundry units (one per 10 staterooms perhaps?) and both autobar and -chef installed, possibly gourmet models, both probably requiring money to dispense.