A new Universe for "A Call To Arms"
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H said:
ADB and Steven Cole have repeated and consistently over 20 years stated that their SFB license from Paramount covers only the Original Series era stuff and a few limited other sources (one of the tech guides I think) and no Next Gen/VOyager/DS9 etc, so I can only assume that they wouldn't be able to license anything on to Mongoose.
I'd be interested to see where Early Years and Enterprise fit - I assume conceptually the same period but the stories/tech and names are not covered by SFB's license (but thats directed guesswork rather than knowledge).
Greg Smith
Mongoose
Wizkids has the licence for 'real' (and new) Star Trek. They are producing a ship game with what looks like TNG ships and a collaborative board game with new Kirk, Spock, McCoy etc heroclicks.
Renny
Mongoose
I've seen images of the Wizkids ships but the game is very expensive and at the moment, it's a simulation boardgame, rather than a ship combat game.
In an ideal world, 'real' Star Trek ACTA would be fantastic, but if i can field a fleet of Constitution class cruisers against Klingon D7's in ACTA:SFB, then i'm in.
I think this will prove to be a good move for Mongoose and ADB as both ACTA and SFB have distinct player bases who could potentially cross over.
I'm looking forward to seeing what's coming down the pipe.
In an ideal world, 'real' Star Trek ACTA would be fantastic, but if i can field a fleet of Constitution class cruisers against Klingon D7's in ACTA:SFB, then i'm in.
I think this will prove to be a good move for Mongoose and ADB as both ACTA and SFB have distinct player bases who could potentially cross over.
I'm looking forward to seeing what's coming down the pipe.
Da Boss said:Does anyone know if the Mirror Universe is covered by the licence as thats my favouriteand it was in the original series?
In the original series no change in ships in fact only Enterpriise and maybe a d7, (might be wrong on the latter, long time since i saw it). mirror uiniverse was expanded a bit more in "Enterprise"in fact 2 of my favorite episodes from that series, (there weren't many).
Even if it doesn't still an opportunity, since I seem to remember an excellent, & continuing I believe, "alternate" if not quite mirror, fan created universe for B5........... now what was its name again?............., :lol:
McKickaha said:Da Boss said:Does anyone know if the Mirror Universe is covered by the licence as thats my favourite
In the original series no change in ships in fact only Enterpriise and maybe a d7, (might be wrong on the latter, long time since i saw it). mirror uiniverse was expanded a bit more in "Enterprise"in fact 2 of my favorite episodes from that series, (there weren't many).
Indeed - but I think the Fed ships were more pure war ships? Fairly sure there was indeed a Klingon ship.
Enterprises (the series) finest moment that two parter - Hoshi was great and loved the credits sequence.....
re Section 31 - well it can be done but just not called that?
Oh and indeed I am trying to finish Darkness Rising III :wink:
Well - it has less need to be covert; as noted the Starfleet Battles history is far more...well...militararistic. The federation may try to be all luvvy-duvvy but it's at war for most of the century or so that the period covers; so the general 'being a fiendish git to everyone' role is probably quite openly carried out by starfleet intelligence.
I always thought the Federation were just like the Borg, really. They assimilate civilizations and technologies, put them all in black and red/gold/blue uniforms, and add their uniqueness to their own. Just like the Borg but with a more friendly smile, oh and a few more light bulbs.
I hope the stats are compatible with B5:ACTA because my first thought was exactly the same as Burger's - Star Wreck:ACTA.
Buy one ship, get one free. Build the model, then convert the box into a Borg cube.
Build one fleet, get one free - build a bunch of Klingon D7's, then use them as Romulans. You don't even need to repaint them. In The Enterprise Incident, at least before it was remastered, the Romulans used Klingon D7's in original markings.
It always amused me when someone claims Starfleet is not military. They use the most powerful weapons available to the Federation to defend it against armed attack - they had better be military!
Buy one ship, get one free. Build the model, then convert the box into a Borg cube.
Build one fleet, get one free - build a bunch of Klingon D7's, then use them as Romulans. You don't even need to repaint them. In The Enterprise Incident, at least before it was remastered, the Romulans used Klingon D7's in original markings.
It always amused me when someone claims Starfleet is not military. They use the most powerful weapons available to the Federation to defend it against armed attack - they had better be military!
Da Boss said:Does anyone know if the Mirror Universe is covered by the licence as thats my favourite
There was talk on the ADB BBS a couple of years back about doing a "Reflection Universe" project; where the roles of the Vulcans and Romulans are swapped (as in, the militarist faction wins on Vulcan, and the followers of Surak go into exile on Romulus).
It wouldn't be the same as the Terran Empire in Franchise Trek, but it can still be its own thing.
locarno24 said:
The games mainly focus on certain periods of conflict, yes, but the timeline is not quite so lop-sided, for the Feds at least.
Yes, the Federation fights a number of wars (two each with the Romulans, Klingons and Kzintis, then the General War, then on to the Andromedan War) but it is still at peace for a much higher proportion of the time period covered by the SFU than not.
Things vary from empire to empire, but you could look at the most striking example, that of the Inter-Stellar Concordium; who had their early history expanded upon in the two latest Early Years modules. Once the five founding planets develop tactical warp drive and wind down the resource wars they had hitherto fought against each other, they remain at peace for around a hundred and fifty years! (And even then, you could argue the short-lived Pacification Campaign was not a true war; only when the Andromedans began their invasion of the Alpha Octant did the ISC have a real fight to the death on its hands.)
There are details on how the various branches of the UFP government work in the GURPS and D20M versions of Prime Directive Federation.
Zarash said:
More like one or two dozen!
The SFU has expanded far beyond the Alpha Octant (our corner of the galaxy) in the last decade or so; branching out into the Omega Octant (originally created by Bruce Graw), Lesser Magellanic Cloud (expanded upon by Ken Burnside, who now runs Ad Astra Games) and the Triangulum Galaxy (which has a playtest module for SFB written by Francois Angers).
Omega alone has almost two dozen empires in print, and at least half a dozen more noted in the Omega timeline which await publication; the LMC has five empires in print, and at least two more in reserve; and M33 has four playtest empires, out of over two dozen on the Triangulum map.
Hopefully, once a solid presence is established in A Call to Arms for the various Alpha empires, the door could then be opened to some of the other settings the Star Fleet Universe has on offer.
LimeyDragon
Banded Mongoose
I'm not really caring about what universe the game is held in. I'm just happy to play with Star Trek like ships and not have to worry about a rules that are over complicated, AKA SFB.
Nerroth said:Da Boss said:Does anyone know if the Mirror Universe is covered by the licence as thats my favourite
There was talk on the ADB BBS a couple of years back about doing a "Reflection Universe" project; where the roles of the Vulcans and Romulans are swapped (as in, the militarist faction wins on Vulcan, and the followers of Surak go into exile on Romulus).
It wouldn't be the same as the Terran Empire in Franchise Trek, but it can still be its own thing.?
So they can't just call it the Empire of Terra in the "Looking Glass Universe" and do everything the same as TOS? Pity.......
LimeyDragon said:
There already are more streamlined and/or differently organised game engines in the SFU, such as Federation Commander and the adaptation to Starmada; A Call to Arms will be one of many stablemates covering the same ground (or, well, space).
Da Boss said:
I'd rather see it as a case of "what can be done here that no-one else has done so far?"
If you focus only on the stuff the SFU can't do, you may end up missing a lot of the new material they can (and have, and will) create.
By the way, should this thread be merged with the one over on the ACtA:NA board?
Nerroth said:
Has anyone tested if you can do the Mirror Universe? in SFB and been told no thats not allowed?
I am quite intrigued by what comes out but thats my fave Trek setting unless the SFB Federation is like the Terran Empire? The cast seem to enjoy the roles more.........
sooo what cool things do I not know about yet - that may involve lots of things blowing up and hot women.......I am braodminded species wise........is there a primer on the races anywhere?
As SVC posted in the other thread:
If they had the ability to do the same mirrorverse seen in TOS, they probably would have considered using it by now. (Or rather, they would have had to have used it by the time the deal with Paramount was signed.) The Reflection Universe project is a case of what kind of alternate realities they can try to come up with instead.
In the "vanilla" Star Fleet Universe timeline, the Feds are pretty Fed-like; Earth is a major player economically and politically, but does not run an "Earth Empire" by any means.
There's an intro page to the setting over here, if you want to have a look.
If they had the ability to do the same mirrorverse seen in TOS, they probably would have considered using it by now. (Or rather, they would have had to have used it by the time the deal with Paramount was signed.) The Reflection Universe project is a case of what kind of alternate realities they can try to come up with instead.
In the "vanilla" Star Fleet Universe timeline, the Feds are pretty Fed-like; Earth is a major player economically and politically, but does not run an "Earth Empire" by any means.
There's an intro page to the setting over here, if you want to have a look.
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