100ton Fast Scout Plan

[middenface]

Something I was doing for a thing on G+..
I've been quiet of late and not doing oodles of work... soon that will change...
BIG IMAGE--
http://biomassart.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/aeroscout.jpg

 

[Chas]

I could be looking to, ah, bribe a good deck plan draftsman/artist. I see from your other thread you might be amenable. (??)

Please refer to a thread a few below this:

http://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=56448

 

[CosmicGamer]

Looks nice. Have the specs on it?

 

[GypsyComet]

Looks nice. Have the specs on it?

Premise: take a standard Mongoose Type S and upgrade the Maneuver Drive and Power Plant to class B. Remove a thing or two to make room.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/109545927566258114273/posts/2WDwRPihAbz

 

[locarno24]

Hmm...deckplans as well? Excellent, Smithers.

 

[middenface]

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B42fMTxd6ZNuOWlqU0JPUVBoUlU/edit?usp=sharing

The specs

 

[Oracle]

A very nice design deck plans you have here....! Very nice and a slightly different design than the standard wedge Scout.

 

[middenface]

I could be looking to, ah, bribe a good deck plan draftsman/artist. I see from your other thread you might be amenable. (??)

Please refer to a thread a few below this:

http://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=56448

Bribery works...

 

[locarno24]

It's a very sensible layout. I like seeing ships which are a little more 3d (multiple decks) from time to time.

 

[middenface]

One model

 

[middenface]

Some minor updates

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B42fMTxd6ZNuN2d5c3hPS0J5eGc/edit?usp=sharing

 

[dragoner]

Wow! Great! Thanks! yoinks :wink:

 

[middenface]

Wow! Great! Thanks! yoinks :wink:

Tah!

 

[Lord High Munchkin]

Nice design.

In your model, is there something going on a bit odd with the placement of the airlock and cargo bay doors?

Wouldn't the leading edge of the "wings" also be streamlined a tad? That might make the thickness of the "wings" too thin to allow the necessary tonnage of fuel that is to be stored in them, to count though.

Just some thoughts.

 

[phavoc]

Nice! Though in some ways it kind of looks like a B-25 married to a Tie Fighter and possibly an Avenger TBD. To wit, the nose looks like a B-25, the winglets look like the Tie Fighter, and the turret behind the bridge gives it a TBD feel.

 

[silburnl]

Very nice, I like the 3D models as well - I'm not up at all up on the state of the art with modelling tools, is it possible to autogenerate a rough model from the deckplans these days?

My quibbles are minor, cosmetic and mostly focused on the crew spaces.

Firstly - I would have slimmed the staterooms down to four squares apiece in order to free up squares for a shared freshers/utility space (I really don't grok the obsession with personal sanitation units on designs for service vessels - I guess it's a Vilani ritualised hygiene thing) and a larger crew commons that could then be a bit more divided into task-themed areas (galley, ship's office, exercise area etc).

Secondly - if you are going to keep individual freshers then if you flip the layouts on alternating staterooms you will get freshers sharing a bulkhead, which simplifies utility pipe runs and such. It's a little touch, but it adds to the verisimilitude.

Thirdly - the dining table dominates the common room, but you have a nicely curved forrard bulkhead that is perfect for a banquette-style bench that would let you nudge the table half a square over, lose a couple of the dining chairs and open up a bit of circulation space for access to the mini-galley (which personally I would represent with a grey 'workspace surface' shape like in the bridge rather than a couple of random shapes).

Fourthly - there's no head on the bridge deck. A ship running with only four crew is going to be rostered such that there is only one watch-stander on the bridge a lot of the time; having to leave the bridge when nature calls and drop down a deck to a stateroom isn't very practical (it is the IISS however, so I guess they are used to going in a baggie...).

Regards
Luke

 

[GJD]

There's also some dead space on deck 2 next to the hatch. I'd suggest putting a door in and turning it into extra storage space. Any nook and cranny on a small ship is going to be jammed full of stuff. One of the cabins is missing a chair, too.

Cracking design, though.

G.

 

[middenface]

Very nice, I like the 3D models as well - I'm not up at all up on the state of the art with modelling tools, is it possible to autogenerate a rough model from the deckplans these days?

It's kind of what I do... though in this instance I drew the plan in illustrator 1st.. I have and can do them in sketchup (the plans) and build the model from there...

Firstly - I would have slimmed the staterooms down to four squares apiece in order to free up squares for a shared freshers/utility space (I really don't grok the obsession with personal sanitation units on designs for service vessels - I guess it's a Vilani ritualised hygiene thing) and a larger crew commons that could then be a bit more divided into task-themed areas (galley, ship's office, exercise area etc).

I admit I have it firmly ingrained in my design noodle, that all rooms have a head/Fresher/Loo... Though my 2300AD stuff does not follow this.
In this case I was restrained by the shape of the hull, its a design derby from Google+
4 squares would not fit well... 6 is good and it gives the crew some comfort on long voyages..
I also assume the common room can be multi purpose too.

Secondly - if you are going to keep individual freshers then if you flip the layouts on alternating staterooms you will get freshers sharing a bulkhead, which simplifies utility pipe runs and such. It's a little touch, but it adds to the verisimilitude.

I like that idea, a simple touch.

Thirdly - the dining table dominates the common room, but you have a nicely curved forrard bulkhead that is perfect for a banquette-style bench that would let you nudge the table half a square over, lose a couple of the dining chairs and open up a bit of circulation space for access to the mini-galley (which personally I would represent with a grey 'workspace surface' shape like in the bridge rather than a couple of random shapes).

Ah yes... it is a little huge... I envisioned something like the dining room in ALIEN...
Yep, definitely needs looking at.

Fourthly - there's no head on the bridge deck. A ship running with only four crew is going to be rostered such that there is only one watch-stander on the bridge a lot of the time; having to leave the bridge when nature calls and drop down a deck to a stateroom isn't very practical (it is the IISS however, so I guess they are used to going in a baggie...).

Yeah.. the thin bridge is a little unwieldy...
I shall fit a loo and alter the rear section.



Thanks for the suggestions!

 

[FreeTrav]

Ian, the only thing missing here to make it a perfect candidate for The Shipyard at Freelance Traveller is some color text; got any?

 

[GamingGlen]

I would put cargo space on the bottom deck, the one closest to the ground when the ship is landed.

Often I see cargo spaces on high decks *; seems to me these plans are designed by people who have never had to load or unload a vehicle. :wink:

* I should relook at my racing yacht design, where the cargo space is on the top deck replacing the ATV space of the normal yacht; but it's a yacht, the owner doesn't care. :mrgreen: