What Use are Aircraft Carriers!
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Captain_Nemo
Mongoose
Because they Look GOOD! :twisted:
Der Kommandant
Mongoose
if you play the scenarios some of them dont allow land based aircraft.
Captain_Nemo
Mongoose
I like the "look" of having carriers on the table they are impressive and cool. Will they be part of a tournament fleet? probably not I like Cruisers and Destroyers with maybe a Battleship but like ACTA you don't need to take every ship in the list.
I can't beleive we are having this discussion. It is all about preferences isn't it? Don't like the ship don't use it If you wanna cheese it out and you're complaining because you can't with the current setup post some House rules and let's see some alternative thinking. I would be happy to check out new stuff!
Anyway...enough from me.
I can't beleive we are having this discussion. It is all about preferences isn't it? Don't like the ship don't use it If you wanna cheese it out and you're complaining because you can't with the current setup post some House rules and let's see some alternative thinking. I would be happy to check out new stuff!
Anyway...enough from me.
jugglingfool
Mongoose
I think I will use carriers because it fits the period better than land based aricraft. The ammount of engagements that had ground based aricraft would be far fewer than those that the carrier was a part of the action.
I would do it for history. But then I like history more than winning.
I would do it for history. But then I like history more than winning.
Soulmage
Mongoose
If you want to "fix" aircraft, the better fix would be to increase the attack dice. For instance, if a torpedo bomber flight is supposed to represent 6 aircraft, then it ought to have 6AD. Of course, if you take that approach aircraft will wind up dominating the game.
Them again, that is what some people seem to want!
Them again, that is what some people seem to want!
Joe_Dracos
Mongoose
Lone carriers are rather useless. Historically they would be used in 2's or 3's or more. The Essex is probably useless due to its high PL, but if you take a couple of Illustrious and the Ark Royal (for instance) you should have enough aircraft (and a really cool look) to overwhelm the enemy. In a 5 point raid, its not a bad expendature of points as long as you spend the rest of your points on Skirmish cruisers and destroyers to screen the carriers.
If you want to "fix" aircraft, the better fix would be to increase the attack dice. For instance, if a torpedo bomber flight is supposed to represent 6 aircraft, then it ought to have 6AD. Of course, if you take that approach aircraft will wind up dominating the game.
Them again, that is what some people seem to want!
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But the point is isn't that exactly what happened. Look at Midway it wasn't ships that won the battle but aircraft.
Them again, that is what some people seem to want!
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But the point is isn't that exactly what happened. Look at Midway it wasn't ships that won the battle but aircraft.
Joe_Dracos
Mongoose
DM said:
This is true to an extent, In the Atlantic and Med (during the early war) there were fewer carriers available, not to mention that the War zones were wide areas of active conflict (like the battle of the atlantic). There was alot of area for roughly 6 carriers (fleet size, escort and light carriers were stretched out as well) to cover. They were often used as anti-submarine platforms inside convoys. The Med had less ship to ship combat as the Italians had adopted a fleet in being tactic after '41.
The pacific, while it was concidered a theater of war on its own, had its conflicts centered around certain islands like Guadalcanal or the Philipines. This allowed for the concetration of resources on a single target. As the war progressed the US (and to a lesser extent, Britain) had more carriers available. With less active conflict zones, the Japanese were quickly overwhelmed.
As for Malta being refered to as an odd opp. It was a frequent mission that even the Americans commited carriers such resupply operations. The Wasp was noted for making two consecutive runs and flying off her full load in aircraft bound for malta.
The Artic runs saw multiple carriers and battleships commited to the operations due to the proximity of Landbased airfields. The USS Washington made one such run, but was damaged in the process (badly too). After that the USN refused to commit ships for the Arctic convoys.
That was more as a result of Punjabi's depth charges that went off after the destroyer sank ahead of the Washington (having been rammed and cut in half by KGV - talk about having a bad day!!) than air attack (unless I've missed something - DANFS doesn't mention air-induced damage).
Joe_Dracos
Mongoose
DANFS?
If I had War at Sea Vol II (its in the mail) I could tell you in detail what happened.
What is this Danfs..... it intregues me....
If I had War at Sea Vol II (its in the mail) I could tell you in detail what happened.
What is this Danfs..... it intregues me....
