War with Drugs

Mr Evil

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ok so i was pointed this morning to a few sites (in last half hour they have been closed down but will be moved again) that the american forces have been using drugs on some troopers.

they have found in one report that soem drugs make the soldiers very agressive and imune to pain, to the extent they cant evan bee taken down by a tazer, they just ignor it and pull out the darts.

also speed is prescribed to american soldiers, evan though its ilegal on american soil.

i tried to look into this a bit more and supply soem links, but the good sites are all down at the mo :( but this one still works


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2595641.stm

By Michael Buchanan
BBC correspondent in Washington



Two American pilots accused in a fatal "friendly fire" incident in Afghanistan took amphetamines before it occurred, an enquiry has found.

The pilots were taking the drugs prescribed by the United States military when they killed four Canadians last April, according to US Air Force investigators.

They are awaiting a court martial hearing due to start next month.

The Canadians who died were serving in Kandahar

US Air Force majors Harry Schmidt and William Umbach face up to 64 years in prison following the incident over Kandahar.

The pilots thought they were being fired at and dropped a laser-guided missile on their presumed attackers.

It was only when they had killed four people and injured eight that they were told the group were Canadian soldiers taking part in a night live-fire exercise and that they had informed the US military.

But it has now emerged that about an hour before the incident the two men had taken amphetamines, or speed as it is commonly known, that had been given to them by the US Air Force.

'Go'-pills

The pills, which are illegal in the US, are given to combat pilots who are involved in long eight or nine-hour sorties in small controlled doses, say the military.

The Air Force stopped prescribing the 'Go' pills, as they are known by the pilots, in 1993 after reports that crews using them during the Gulf War became addicted.

But the drug has been quietly reintroduced in recent years.

The Air Force says they are a medical tool that is essential for combat pilots being sent to war over Afghanistan and, possibly, Iraq.


im sure we can find more examples, i was wondering if these sorta things will become part of BF-evo ? maybe we should use a "RIFTS" term and call them juicers ?
 
"speed" Scopolmine(sp) is given to people for motion sickness, my wife was given it when she flew the Vomit Comet, for 0 gee work.


I also read of a drug that keeps you awake with little side effects, for 48 hours, designed to be taken after 2-3 days without sleep.

As for the rest, it is all possibile with the state of the US goverment leaders at this time.

Lee
 
Yeah and every turn you roll a D10. On a one they will shoot at you own troops.

All those things are nice, but everyone of them influences your mind, making it very dangerous in a combat situation, where you sould be able to use alle you senses and intellect.
 
Larac said:
"speed" Scopolmine(sp) is given to people for motion sickness, my wife was given it when she flew the Vomit Comet, for 0 gee work.


I also read of a drug that keeps you awake with little side effects, for 48 hours, designed to be taken after 2-3 days without sleep.

As for the rest, it is all possibile with the state of the US goverment leaders at this time.

Lee

Yeah, I heard that Cheney himself was seen injecting heroin and liquefied pop-rocks inbetween the toes of the guards at Abu Ghraib. I mean, it's all possible with the state of the US government leaders at this time.
 
Mr Evil said:
Two American pilots accused in a fatal "friendly fire" incident in Afghanistan took amphetamines before it occurred, an enquiry has found.

This was also seen as a factor when an F-14 dropped a Maverick on John Simpson's head.
 
First Amphetamines are only illegal when obtained "without" a prescription. That is in the USA.

Second when used under medical supervision with proper safeguards, they are not the automatic clamity you seem to indicate.

Frequently issued to special ops groups who are trained to use them and who follow said guidelines. Also regularly given to pilots under a Flight Surgeons direction

Try running for 22 plus hours per day during the heart of the "Six-Day War" for the whole fourteen days of critical crises-time, without some sort of chemical "assistance". This while providing Corps level groups with absolutely critical intelligence and preparing for a classified deployment to a potentially "other than friendly" nation to aid in the evacuation of "In Harms Way" US citizens.

To try and pretend that such drugs are not used by major military powers around the world is an expression of both ignorance and naivete'.

For those citizens of Great Britain, realizw "all militaries" yours included have used such "aids for at least the last 40 to 50 years. Not for general troop use, rather for specially trained units and deep deploy Spec Ops groups. They cannot be used for extended time periods without adversely effecting the performance of the soldiers in question. Short-term use only.

Regarding the "Friendly Fire" incident you refer to, the odds are it will turn out to be a simple bollix up in communications failing to reach the pilots regarding the exercise.

Higher command "always" tries to find a scapegoat and the pilots or gunners in such situations are the easy targets.

None of this helps the dead soldiers families, of course.

I have lost relatives in every war since and including World War II, and so can sympathize with the soldiers families and survivors.
 
i dont class pro plus as a amphetamine ;)

some forces use cocain especialy in south africa and such, i think drug upgrades although not very pc would be a nice option for some units.
 
Mr Evil said:
i dont class pro plus as a amphetamine ;)

some forces use cocain especialy in south africa and such, i think drug upgrades although not very pc would be a nice option for some units.
Ha! Giving soldiers stims and coke 8) , how about some quba cigars aswell and bullet belts too
 
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