The proofs in the pudding, as they say

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Wing Commander

Mongoose
Well, we have a Challenger and a range of the miniatures instore as a preview from a supplier. We´ve been showing them to folks in the store since Friday and the vast majority have all declared that they are more than happy with the "prepainted quality" and would be prepared to stump up the asking price for them.
So, in a totally unbiased test we´ve had around 15 actual physical preorders for 1-3 items each (e.g. unit box, tank, etc), around 2-3 dozen say they´d probably try it and see what the rules were like and only 3 actually state that they hated the miniatures and 2 of them quantified that it was only as they were very good painters themselves and feel they could do better.
So, straight from the horses mouth, honest customer faced feedback.
 
That's good news indeed - if this is a taste of the general reception then I'm very happy for Mongoose, and poor old Matt in particular :D

Told ya us grognards aren't representative of the greater gaming community.
 
We received 1 miniature from each faction plus the Challenger. My personal opinion is that the miniatures are not as good as the original pix but far better than the ones posted last week.
The paint scheme is a little better than the first release of Mage Knight stuff and the Challenger is smaller in scale than the men. I´ve seen a Challenger in real life and I didn´t (at 6ft) come up to the top of it, I was only a little over the turret base whereas these men are the height of the tank. Having said that, these are relatively minor gripes and I, as a Retailer, will be happy to stock this as the vast majority of my customers are happy to pay these prices for those goods.
Hope this puts your minds at ease, they aren´t the Rolls Royce of prepainted but aren´t too bad. The overall look and feel though, is positive - and that´s the spending public talking. And yes, this is an honest evaluation as I´ve no real motivation for buying this in if it was too naff to sell, which its not (too naff to sell that is :lol: ).
 
Could you please take some measurements and/or photos ?

I am making terrain, and it would help oh so much to know the size and possibile see it, of the figs.

From base bottom to head

From foot to eye

Both on standing and crouching figs.

This way I can be sure the doors, and the roof depths match up for play.


TY for your help.

Lee
 
The MEA miniature is the "tallest" of the bunch and is exactly 35mm in height from the bottom of the base to the top of his head. The base itself accounts for around 3mm of this including the texturing.
The British MG man is the smallest of the 4 that I have being 32mm from bottom of base to top of helmet. The other 2 faction examples fall in between these sizes. I don´t have any crouching miniatures, sorry but the standing miniatures guns at waist height are approx 13-15mm up from the feet, so add in 3mm for the base height and you have your "wall height" for parapets, walls, etc.
The Challenger itself is exactly 35mm from the bottom of the track to the top of the turret, excluding the hatch which is a further 3mm in height.
We felt that the Challenger was a little on the smallish side but does look very cool and the paint job is of a noticably higher standard than the infantry, it´s weathered, camo´d, faded and muddied. There are even hand painted (looking like hand painted which they are meant to!) number and a few nice touches on it like the eyes!
Hope this helps, and hopefully puts your minds at rest on the quality of the product as I´ve been favourably described as a tight Scots git and I´ll be buying it in for my customers!
 
sounds good the preproduction Challeneger i have is 35mm hight excluding the hatchwork, so its consistant to the scalling i did a while back wich is great.

im thinking about rebasing mine on the small fow bases.
 
Wing Commander said:
The MEA miniature is the "tallest" of the bunch and is exactly 35mm in height from the bottom of the base to the top of his head. The base itself accounts for around 3mm of this including the texturing.
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The British MG man is the smallest of the 4 that I have being 32mm from bottom of base to top of helmet.
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Puts it close to 30mm = 6' on the average figure

Wing Commander said:
I´ve seen a Challenger in real life and I didn´t (at 6ft) come up to the top of it, I was only a little over the turret base whereas these men are the height of the tank. Having said that, these are relatively minor gripes and I, as a Retailer, will be happy to stock this as the vast majority of my customers are happy to pay these prices for those goods.
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A Real Challenger II is officially 2.5m tall. Measures to the top of the coax gun, not the top of the turret.

Wing Commander said:
The Challenger itself is exactly 35mm from the bottom of the track to the top of the turret, excluding the hatch which is a further 3mm in height.
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Means the Challenger II should be right at 41mm. 3mm from the hatch to the coax top = 41 mm. Sounds about spot on to me.
 
I'd like to see PICS.

I do not believe that they are better than the MGP Pics, nor than they are as bad as they look there or even worse, until I have seen Pics form 5-10 different sources or held them in my own fingers.
 
Hi guys,

We'll be arranging a small open day at the end of the month/beginning of February at our office to preview the miniatures. As we have been saying, these are actually good miniatures. . .
 
open day would be spot on Matt, my only suggestion would be to avoid near the 14th feb so that you don't suddenly get an influx of single gamers!!
 
If you make it an open day with GAMING, that would be better, and I may be tempted from the Dantesque hellpit of Birmingham down to Swindon.
 
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