THE GREAT DRAGON PROJECT (EWF)

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A query re the operational nature of the EWF's Great Dragon Project:

What is the nature of the magical contribution to the "pyramid scheme"?

Are MPs/POW donated by lay members to the Draconic/Draconised Cult they belong to?

If so, where do the MPs go?

To the higher EWF ranks? In which case have the Wyrm's Hand Triumphant's and higher got access to said MPs?

To the psychic and physical territory of the EWF?

To some "central pool" on the Gods Plane?

Pending enlightenment by the Inhuman King your ideas/answers please!
:twisted:
 
Challenging questions... I'll try to offer some answers.

What is the nature of the magical contribution to the "pyramid scheme"?
Its far more than just Magic Points, as you can probably guess. Lay members of the EWF contribute very little, but active cult members are becoming part of a growing, abstract, draconic consciousness that only the upper echelons of the EWF can begin to comprehend. That comprehension has only been fully achieved by True Dragons, Inhuman Kings and Obduran the Flyer who has, himself, transfigured into a True Dragon. The Eternal Dragon Ring, which exists below Obduran but above the Wyrm Hand Triumphants, have separate understandings of the consciouness but are not part of its whole because they have not yet attained full enlightenment.

Are MPs/POW donated by lay members to the Draconic/Draconised Cult they belong to?
Sort of. However, MP/POW donations are not necessarily direct donations and more an unconscious contribution. The best way of representing this is to use the Pact rules from 'Guilds, Factions and Cults' which details POW dedications and establishes a relationship with the cult/god/object of veneration.

If so, where do the MPs go?
Into the abstract draconic consciouness - although access to the growing pool of this power is inaccessible to all but those who can understand the consciousness, as outlined above.

To the higher EWF ranks? In which case have the Wyrm's Hand Triumphant's and higher got access to said MPs?
The Triumphants haven't, but the Eternal Dragon Ring has, and it manifests in their ability to assume draconic form and the powers they have attained as a result of their partial enlightenment. I'd refer you to 'Dara Happa Stirs' and the description of Lorenkarten the Mile and Lord Great Burin as examples of how this power can be drawn upon. It really is above and beyond mortal human magic.

To the psychic and physical territory of the EWF?
The consciousness is way beyond this territory, which is essentially rooted in human terms and therefore undraconic. The draconic consciousness exists not on the Gods Plane either; it is part of the fabric of the universe and was created before even the gods came into existence. Best way to understand this is read the mythology chapter of the Dragonewt book, which gives a further insight but still, isn't, a complete description of what the EWF's created consciousness really is.

To some "central pool" on the Gods Plane?
No - see above!

Hope all these metaphysics help. But I would strongly recommend that you read 'Dara Happa Stirs' and 'Dragonewts' for a better understanding of what's at work here. Of course, when the EWF Bumper Book of Fun is written (and it won't be for a while yet), all will become clearer...

:D
 
Loz said:
Hope all these metaphysics help. But I would strongly recommend that you read 'Dara Happa Stirs' and 'Dragonewts' for a better understanding of what's at work here. Of course, when the EWF Bumper Book of Fun is written (and it won't be for a while yet), all will become clearer...

:D

I have both DHS and D:gttE, but The EWF Bumper Book of Fun?!

What's the content? "Varankol the Manglers First Aid tips for Boys and Girls"

I can't wait! (Though I suspect that I'll have to...) :(
 
What's the content? "Varankol the Manglers First Aid tips for Boys and Girls"

That, and chapters such as:

Lord Great Burin's Guide to Painless Regurgitation

Isgangdrang's 'Obduran: My Part in His Downfall'

Lorenkarten's 'How to Piss Off a War God and Live'

Vistikos Left Eye's 'Practical Mysticism for the Inept'

And Obduran's 'Hey! I'm Okay!'

But yep, you'll have to wait.
 
Loz said:
To the higher EWF ranks? In which case have the Wyrm's Hand Triumphant's and higher got access to said MPs?
The Triumphants haven't, but the Eternal Dragon Ring has, and it manifests in their ability to assume draconic form and the powers they have attained as a result of their partial enlightenment.
:D

A question: Are the Eternal Dragon Ring Wyrm's Eye Ascendants? Most of the "Original Twelve" appear to be virtual hermits (or very strange indeed) given their near-total commitment to the Great Dragon to Be.

Lorenkarten, Drang and Great Lord Burin seem a bit too preoccupied with the "impure" political/physical world to merit membership of the top rank of the EWF.

Or am I being too prescriptive?
 
A question: Are the Eternal Dragon Ring Wyrm's Eye Ascendants? Most of the "Original Twelve" appear to be virtual hermits (or very strange indeed) given their near-total commitment to the Great Dragon to Be.

No, not in the way you imagine. All were disciples/students of Obduran, most likely chosen for their inherent abilities to comprehend both draconic thought and his own teachings. As a result of studying with Obudran they have achieved stages of enlightenment beyond what a common or garden Ascendant can achieve. However, with their teachings (such as the Path of Unstruck Sound), Ascendants can place themselves on the path to attaining the kind of power the EDR manifests.

Lorenkarten, Drang and Great Lord Burin seem a bit too preoccupied with the "impure" political/physical world to merit membership of the top rank of the EWF.

Or am I being too prescriptive?

A little too prescriptive. The EDR, with the exception of Obduran, are mortal and need to command the EWF at the highest levels - so yes, they are concerned with the mortal world and that is proving to be a barrier to enlightenment and transfiguration (and inherent problem across the whole EWF though). Lorenkarten, Drang and Burin engage in the most important battles and political fights, but they bring with them a draconic and mythic interpretation of the circumstances. However, they're still mortal - but they are 'Above and Beyond' the rest of the mortal EWF populace - demi-gods, almost (although that's not the right word either).

The Council of 12, on the other hand, are the layer below the EDR. They are hermetic and they are weird. They are examples of that transitional stage - almost dragonewt-like - between the EWF rank and file and the EDR. Consider it like this:

Obduran = True Dragon
EDR = Inhuman King
Council of 12 = Ruler Dragonewt

Its a little crude to apply to the dragonewt lifecycle to the upper echelons of the EWF, but that's esssentially what it is as moving from one rank to another requires rebirth mythically and, perhaps, physically.

Hope this helps! Certainly helps me start formulating what's going in that EWF Bumper Book of Fun...
 
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