Starship Troopers....
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darth_azabrush
Mongoose
They're planning on a Traveler SST I think.
Armydillo978
Mongoose
darth_azabrush said:
That's a lifeline.
Hopefully if it flys, it'll eventually draw enough interest for MP to start up SST:Evo again.
Or so I hope.
Armydillo978
Mongoose
Xorrandor said:
Yeah, those are nice. Haven't had a chance to get to them yet. We've been trying out the Apocalypse Z test rules. Talk about brutally painful for the humans. Zombies kick butt.
Hmmmm, zombie MI's. Now that would be scary. Or zombie skinnies.
Aragorn300
Mongoose
One thing I hope is that it is more like the novels than the movies.
Visually, the movie was fine for starships, vehicles and the bugs, and the power suits from the novel probably most resemble the suits in the Anime "Appleseed".
In game terms, becoming a citizen could be hot stuff, gaining bonuses to things like wisdom and new skills and access to the government to echo Heinlein's unique democracy.
I have probably read the original 3 or 4 times...and despite what critics say, it is NOT a fascist government. It's simply showing an extreme to illustrate an extreme...In a world where millions vote on a candidate's looks and personality, making someone EARN their vote almost makes sense...remember, the Nazis were VOTED into power based on sheer force of personality.
The novel was actually about personal responsiblity and civic virtue as seen through the perspective of old military codes of honor.
There is a scene in the book --published in 1958-- when a teacher in the future talks about the end of the 20th century. The teacher talks about how corporal punishment (spanking for those too young to remember) was done away with, and the lack of punishment under the law led to an explosion in crime among those in their teens/early 20's, including increased gang activity, and extreme violence......In 1958 most parents still spanked children, juvenile crime was marginal at best, and most gangs got into fist fights not hosing down neigborhoods with bullets.
I don't know about our friends over on the UK side of the pond, but juvenile crime has to unprecendented heights, and 13 year old murderers are more common than anyone wants to admit....I dont agree with all Heinlein's reasons as to why things went bad, but he certainly predicted it quite well.
Visually, the movie was fine for starships, vehicles and the bugs, and the power suits from the novel probably most resemble the suits in the Anime "Appleseed".
In game terms, becoming a citizen could be hot stuff, gaining bonuses to things like wisdom and new skills and access to the government to echo Heinlein's unique democracy.
I have probably read the original 3 or 4 times...and despite what critics say, it is NOT a fascist government. It's simply showing an extreme to illustrate an extreme...In a world where millions vote on a candidate's looks and personality, making someone EARN their vote almost makes sense...remember, the Nazis were VOTED into power based on sheer force of personality.
The novel was actually about personal responsiblity and civic virtue as seen through the perspective of old military codes of honor.
There is a scene in the book --published in 1958-- when a teacher in the future talks about the end of the 20th century. The teacher talks about how corporal punishment (spanking for those too young to remember) was done away with, and the lack of punishment under the law led to an explosion in crime among those in their teens/early 20's, including increased gang activity, and extreme violence......In 1958 most parents still spanked children, juvenile crime was marginal at best, and most gangs got into fist fights not hosing down neigborhoods with bullets.
I don't know about our friends over on the UK side of the pond, but juvenile crime has to unprecendented heights, and 13 year old murderers are more common than anyone wants to admit....I dont agree with all Heinlein's reasons as to why things went bad, but he certainly predicted it quite well.
Greg Smith
Mongoose
Aragorn300 said:
Teenagers (and younger kids) carrying knifes, knife murders among teenagers and young adults, underage drinking, and anti-social behaviour among young people, are all constantly in the media here in the UK. (Despite actual statistics showing crime is on the fall).
Armydillo978
Mongoose
I think it was on the this board that someone said "if it bleeds, it leads" which is pretty much how most new agencies work.
Kittens, flowers, and candy don't sell ad space I'm afraid.
Most things are cyclical, so I'm sure in time we will work our way back to paddlin's and woodpile talks.
Kittens, flowers, and candy don't sell ad space I'm afraid.
Most things are cyclical, so I'm sure in time we will work our way back to paddlin's and woodpile talks.
Monkey_Bloke
Mongoose
Going back to the post about SST Traveller, I would love that.
I got the d20 version that mongoose published, but I think that MGT would be a better system fit. Character creation would be cool, you should be almost guaranteed to get an injury every tour, and a cool (but bulky) prosthetic.
I think the first game was closest to the animated series in it's look, with the green power armour.
I like that, it lets me run different types of games, and if I want to emulate the book in style then I give the PCs marauders.
I got the d20 version that mongoose published, but I think that MGT would be a better system fit. Character creation would be cool, you should be almost guaranteed to get an injury every tour, and a cool (but bulky) prosthetic.
I think the first game was closest to the animated series in it's look, with the green power armour.
I like that, it lets me run different types of games, and if I want to emulate the book in style then I give the PCs marauders.
Aragorn300
Mongoose
Yea, the animated definitely had a good look.
Unfortunately, 20 years of japanese mecha anime tends to make Heinlein's original vision now sound like a mecha cliche.
Making an all new look might be best. I think a good artist could take present body armor like the Dragonskin used by soldiers in Iraq, add on sealed breathing gear and optics, then amp it up....put some exotic camoflage colors like black and crimson tiger stripes on blue background to simulate camoflage for non-earth like vegatation.
The power suit weapons could be detachable from forearm pods as well as vertically lauched missiles from the backpack. That way instead of having the same weapons all the time, players could choose before they jump....or they could have GM orchestrated "supply problems" where they don't get the proper weapon pods.
Unfortunately, 20 years of japanese mecha anime tends to make Heinlein's original vision now sound like a mecha cliche.
Making an all new look might be best. I think a good artist could take present body armor like the Dragonskin used by soldiers in Iraq, add on sealed breathing gear and optics, then amp it up....put some exotic camoflage colors like black and crimson tiger stripes on blue background to simulate camoflage for non-earth like vegatation.
The power suit weapons could be detachable from forearm pods as well as vertically lauched missiles from the backpack. That way instead of having the same weapons all the time, players could choose before they jump....or they could have GM orchestrated "supply problems" where they don't get the proper weapon pods.
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