Starship Troopers Evo Crossover

[B_Steele]

Just thought I'd let everybody know that we spent all day yesterday doing cross-genre playtesting of Wave 1 stuff and this is what we discovered:

Exo Suits in cover make mincemeat of the MEA...period. The MEA need that Tunguska to deal with Exos.

However, the Challenger II does a great job of dealing with Exos quite well.

What we figured out is that with current waves of minis, the SST stuff is still a bit on the "too-tough for the points" side. That being said, when the waves get a little more broad and better forces are able to be created on both sides, I think you will find good games to be had by mixing the genres after all.

And before this thread becomes a complaint-fest...play a few 750 - 1,000 point games of crossing genres a bit before you simply assume.

More to come as we test further...

-Bry

 

[tneva82]

However, the Challenger II does a great job of dealing with Exos quite well.

Try adding some of the MI's armour busters on field then...Like chickenhawks...

Hello Mr. Insta killable tank. Say hello to not-insta killable tank!

 

[Voracioustigger]

I'd say that LAMI army with 2 javelins per squad should obliterate pretty much any BF:Evo army... no contest.

 

[Mage]

Well, if you have nukes any BFE is toast.

 

[Hiromoon]

Thats if they were using Javalins... They're using Longbows right now.

I suppose we should be glad they're not using any of the obsolete Crossbow launch systems.

 

[Voracioustigger]

Thats if they were using Javalins... They're using Longbows right now.

I suppose we should be glad they're not using any of the obsolete Crossbow launch systems.

Bah, you and everyone else knows I meant longbows...

My point was merely the blast missile for the infantry and the holepunch for the tanks.

 

[B_Steele]

Well, if you have nukes any BFE is toast.

Actually, the MEA's rockets wipe out LAMI like nothing...and those 300 points for nukes can buy three whole squads with 2 RPGs each.

That nuke is only get get one squad of 'em.

Like I said earlier, appearances are more deceiving than first assumptions would have had you believe.

-Bry

 

[Voracioustigger]

Maybe a little deceiving...

but the fact still remains that LAMI with Longbows (NO NUKES... I never mentioned nukes) will own any BF:evo force.

Run a few games steele... you'll see for yourself :wink:

 

[katadder]

also pointswise like any crossover game the SST races are balanced versus each other in capabilities etc, same as the BF:E armies are balanced versus each other.
imagine trying to stop an arachnid swarm with L85s (hard enough to stop a person with one), not gonna happen, would need at least a heavy machine gun to deal, and thats just the warriors.

 

[Mage]

Well, its that stage where you realise your guns wont work very well.

Then Call of Cthulhu survival instincts kick in:
I cannot outrun that, but if I knee cap my friend here, then that buys me another 30 seconds at least...

 

[Soulmage]

I would think that although they use the same system, the stats for BF:E and SST are balanced for their own game, not crossover games.

If you're going to play a crossover game, the SST stuff ought to get a major upgrade to represent the technological superiority of their weapons. A morita is not just a different looking M4.

Maybe just double all attack dice for the SST stuff. Or get a little wierder and say all SST d6 attack dice are d8s, and d10 attack dice are d12s?

 

[B_Steele]

If you're going to play a crossover game, the SST stuff ought to get a major upgrade to represent the technological superiority of their weapons. A morita is not just a different looking M4.

Actually, they don't need it at all. PLay a few games with the Wave One stuff and you will see that.

But there is nothing funnier than watching a Challenger II making Exo Suits explode to a Bug/Skinnie player.

Bry

 

[tneva82]

I would think that although they use the same system, the stats for BF:E and SST are balanced for their own game, not crossover games.

If you're going to play a crossover game, the SST stuff ought to get a major upgrade to represent the technological superiority of their weapons. A morita is not just a different looking M4.

Morita already rolls double the number of dices of basic BF:Evo infantry Their missile launchers have variety of ammo for various use(the 3" blast will make short work of BF:evo troops ).

They have troops that can jump at ease.

And they cost very little compared to BF:evo troops(LAMI is what? 10 points? PLA minimum sized squad(6 troops) cost 100 pts...Okay it has rocket launcher but still...5 troopers firing 5d6 plus rocket vs 20d6?).

I would say SST:Evo armies will already make mincemeat over BF:Evo armies

Nevermind really fancy stuff that is coming. Chickenhawk that takes minimum 2 turns for BF:evo tank to kill and can potentially insta kill 2 tanks(unless feel of said unit is dramatically changed) for about half of tank price(2/3 in case of PLA tank but those are particulary vulnerable...)? Poor BF:evo forces...