Speed and criticals

[animus]

So I have ship a movement of 8. It's got a -4 speed and just went crippled (1/2 speed). Is it immobile or does it have a move of 2?

In other words, do you take the half speed first of the -4 first?

8/2 = 4 - 4 = 0
or
8 - 4 = 4/2 = 2

 

[Chernobyl]

2.

Previous rulings in ACTA state that speed criticals are applied to the maximum speed of the vessel, and then halved for crippled.

Chern

 

[Davesaint]

Chern,

As a practice, I would agree with you, however Matt has also ruled the opposite.

Speed 8 - Half speed due to Crippled = Speed 4. - 4 Speed Crit = parked.


The question is which speed reduction takes precident. If Crippling is first, the above applies, if the Speed Crit does, then you are speed 2. Since we have had 2 different answers for this, I would use the one that makes more sense, which IMHO is speed 2.


Dave

 

[animus]

I like Chern's explanation better, but if there's a ruling that says otherwise...

The thing that made me think that it ISN'T parked is that there's a "Speed 0" critical. The others are just penalties and I didn't think they were meant to take a ship out of the game - why would a sturdy Primus be nurfed by crits that would only slow a weak Vorchan?

 

[CZuschlag]

I believe this is answered in the Armageddon FAQ, and we were suprised as it was the reverse of what we had previously thought -- it is, indeed, speed zero.

Don't have A. with me at work, so my statement needs confirmation.

 

[Obsidian]

And so it is. Answer on page 90 of Armegeddon.

If a ship suffers a critical hit resulting in loss of Speed and is then Crippled, halve the speed for it being Crippled, then deduct the Speed penalty of the critical hit.

 

[Court Jester]

Divide and multiply before you add and subtract.

 

[Chernobyl]

which is the opposite of his previous ruling. I guess everyone's entitle to change their mind. Shich brings into question the order of crits/crippling in VAS even more...

Chern

 

[CZuschlag]

Mass Drivers have become ship-enders with this and the speculative fire ruling. Just warning speed 8 or less (and expecially speed 4 stuff like the Bin'Tak; -2 speed crits are easy to find) folks downrange of Rohrics, Khatriks, Wahants, and Mankhats.

Ship go boom.

 

[H]

so essentially fast flimsy ships have a less chance of being left dead in space by speed crits? :?