So. . . where is the Montana??

[Soulmage]

I have the miniature! Just need stats to use it! Yamato the mega-dreadnought my ass!!

 

[Chernobyl]

Add a Y-turret of the same 16"/50 Cal
add some more damage and crew - don't know tonnage (estimated 70,000, and probably another 200 total crew for the 4th turret.
maybe some more AA, secondary's were the same
drop speed to 5, turning 1

I think it was programmed to be a run of 6.

Chern

 

[rbax]

My take:

Montana Class Battleship

Ships: Montana, Ohio, Maine, New Hampshire, Louisiana

The Montana class battleships of the United States Navy were proposed successors to the Iowa class, being slower, but larger, better armored, and carrying more guns. Five ships of the Montana class were approved for construction during World War II; however, changes in priority during the war resulted in cancellation of the new design in favour of aircraft carriers before the first keel was laid.

In-Service: 1945 (Never Completed)
Length: 921 ft
Displacement: 70965 tons
Speed: 28 knots
Crew: 2789

Speed: 6 inches
Turning: 1
Target: 4
Armor: 6
Damage: 54/18
Crew: 112/37
Special: Radar, Armored Deck, Radar, Torpedo Belt

A-Turret (3 x 16 in) 43" 3AD 3DD SAP
B-Turret (3 x 16 in) 43" 3AD 3DD SAP
X-Turret (3 x 16 in) 43" 3AD 3DD SAP
Y-Turret (3 x 16 in) 43" 3AD 3DD SAP
Secondary Weapons 18" 18AD 1DD WEAK
AAA 8" 15AD

 

[Chernobyl]

I curious how you justify a 3-fold increase in secondary AD? all the planning sketches I've seen has it with the same 5" gun layout as an Iowa, 5 twin turrets per side...

Chern

 

[Burger]

It has 2 Radar's?

 

[Court Jester]

It has 2 Radar's?

Super Ninja Radar Power...?

 

[Soulmage]

I really think that the Montana ought to have a special armor rule. According to what I've read, it was the ONLY ship to ever be armored heavily enough to resist its own guns - which were amongst the most pwoerful ever mounted!

How about this rule:

Tough: Rolls to confirm criticals against this ship are at -1. Secondary weapons may not inflict critical hits on this ship.

 

[Court Jester]

I really think that the Montana ought to have a special armor rule. According to what I've read, it was the ONLY ship to ever be armored heavily enough to resist its own guns - which were amongst the most pwoerful ever mounted!

How about this rule:

Tough: Rolls to confirm criticals against this ship are at -1. Secondary weapons may not inflict critical hits on this ship.

Are not all secondaries weak any how...

 

[Chernobyl]

How about only AP and SAP weapons may inflict crits...?

 

[DM]

IIRC Montana's guns were to have been the same 16"/50s as the Iowas.

 

[Soulmage]

Are not all secondaries weak any how...

I don't think so. I think some cruisers have secondary weapons that are their primary armament and are not weak. Could be wrong though.

 

[Soulmage]

How about only AP and SAP weapons may inflict crits...?

That is a good idea. . .

 

[Burger]

Are not all secondaries weak any how...

I don't think so. I think some cruisers have secondary weapons that are their primary armament and are not weak. Could be wrong though.

You are wrong; all Secondary Weapons currently in the game are Weak.

 

[Court Jester]

Are not all secondaries weak any how...

I don't think so. I think some cruisers have secondary weapons that are their primary armament and are not weak. Could be wrong though.

You are wrong; all Secondary Weapons currently in the game are Weak.

There is one ship... The Japanese Nagara-class cruiser in the printed VaS rulebook that has non weak secondaries.

 

[Burger]

Oh yes, you're right.. I stand corrected and so is my ship viewer

 

[DM]

There is one ship... The Japanese Nagara-class cruiser in the printed VaS rulebook that has non weak secondaries.

If so its probably a misprint - she was only armed with 5.5" guns which are definitely in the "weak" category.