Runequest for CONAN! KULL! and Traveller B5 - down with d20

[flyingcircus]

As the title says, i am tired of d20 and want my games of Traveller to be Babylon 5 for starters and then get STARSHIP TROOPER out as well, then for Runequest why not CONAN & KULL dump the d20 system and use Traveller & Runequest for everything you make, I am d20'ed out.

 

[-Daniel-]

There are a lot of folks who seem to be burned out on d20. I hear and see a lot of folks looking for other options. You are not alone in this opinion, that is for sure.

Daniel

 

[lastbesthope]

If Mongoose bring out B5 for Traveller they had better do some fancy talking to keep me as a customer for any f their lines.

LBH

 

[flyingcircus]

If Mongoose bring out B5 for Traveller they had better do some fancy talking to keep me as a customer for any f their lines.

LBH

Well nothing says they have to dump d20 B5 (although it sucks anyways), d20 is the past, its a beat to death system that needs to just die!

besides I dont think they would miss you as a customer. :wink:

 

[lastbesthope]

Well look at it this way on the B5 front.

They never gave us the promised compatibility or conversion stuff for the 2 editions they have done in d20 systems.

If they do new material for traveller not covered in the d20, the d20 fans will go "Oi, we want that". And rightly so.

If they redo existing material from 1E for Traveller, the people who stuck around from 1E to 2E will want it converted to 2E as well as Traveller, as we were promised by Mongoose.

For we few B5 fans who have remained loyal to Mongoose across the rules change neither is particularly satisfactory, though I'd welcome a 3rd option.

LBH

 

[flyingcircus]

Well I understand all that, I have all the 1E material and am just fed up with the OGL/d20 experience (thank you very much). I just would like a return to the days of having many systems to choose from, I am tired of the ONE RULE SYSTEM to RULE THEM ALL, its all just flooded the market with the same ol' same ol' redundant d20 crud thats clogging up the markets injectors so to speak and making for a boring time and all.

I have been searching for other systems and when I think I have found and interrestingly new game world or something, I order it and it shows up, open it and behold another d20 rip off, its getting me very tired.

But if mongoose was to convert over all there games to Traveller & Runequest, that would make me very happy indeed, they can pander to the OGL market if they like, I just know I wont be buying any of it anymore. :wink:

 

[lordmalachdrim]

I have been searching for other systems and when I think I have found and interrestingly new game world or something, I order it and it shows up, open it and behold another d20 rip off, its getting me very tired.

Makes me glad that I have a fairly large selection of RPGs from before d20 came about and can easily wait for someone else I know to buy the book or an SRD before I put any money down on what turns out to be another D20 clone.

 

[Reveille]

Someone please correct me if I'm, but the current incarnation of B5 is OGL, not D20.

 

[AKAramis]

Someone please correct me if I'm, but the current incarnation of B5 is OGL, not D20.

you are wrong, at least in part.

It is OGL derived from the D20 SRD

 

[Chernobyl]

I'd love to see a Babylon 5 RPG done with the WFRP career system.

 

[The King]

I doubt Babylon 5, Conan and Traveller will ever be under RuneQuest rules, but Kull would be a great idea. 8)

 

[Strom]

Down goes D20! Down goes D20!

I think they should settle it with a Runequest vs. D20 rumble in the jungle. 8)

 

[djd]

Would love to see Conan converted to Runequest....

 

[Garet]

Just to get my 2 copper pieces in. I would never buy any RQ stuff. I just don't care for it. I don't hate it or anything, its just not my style. I still play and enjoy d20. The thing that seems to be ignored is some people are happy with d20. In a few years when the games have had their run then this can be revisited. just my thoughts 8)


Was there a rumor a couple years ago that someone had gotten Kull? I just don't really remember now.

 

[highpriestrsw2]

I agree with most of this thread.
I own the RQ core, Elric and Hawkmoon.
I'm trying to convince my gaming group to give RQ a try. I have one convert so far.
We don't play D20 and we all really dislike D20.
I'm not saying "down with D20" because there are obviously some people out there who do play it and like it. I am saying "why not RQ Conan?" and I think Kull would be a cool book too. I'd personally like to see a Corum RPG and/or one done on Oswald Bastable for RQ. I'm a fan of the old LBB Traveller RPG and have yet to try the new version. I'm a fan of B5 but don't own any of the products because I'm only a fan of the series and wouldn't really care to play it neither as a miniatures game, nor an RPG. I do suppose that if it brings in income for Mongoose (and isn't too hard to license for a second RPG system) than a Traveller version of B5 would be good as well.

 

[TrippyHippy]

I doubt Babylon 5, Conan and Traveller will ever be under RuneQuest rules, but Kull would be a great idea. 8)

um..Traveller certainly won't be done under RuneQuest rules ( :shock: :? ), but Babylon 5 will have a supplement for use with Traveller rules. It won't be done to undermine the d20 version though (unless the sales are phenomenal).

I could see Conan being done under the RuneQuest rules, but it appears that the d20 gameline is still going strong, so I doubt they will want to disrupt that line too much either. I suppose we could see a RuneQuest supplement for Conan, in the same way Babylon 5 is being done for Traveller, but there doesn't seem to be much buzz for Runequest licences outside the ones that exist already (Glorantha, Elric, Hawkmoon, etc).

Actually, seeing a Conan adaptation for a fantasy version of Traveller would be quite interesting - it would fit better than some might think, and they do have Barbarian characters in the core rules already.....

 

[Krimson]

Aside from the aforementioned Oswald Bastable (maybe a League of Temporal Adventurers book would be good, with added Una Persson) and Corum, the idea of a Kull RQ game would be very interesting. An antidiluvian earth setting would be amazing to play on (in fact the reason I bought Morrigan's Atlantis: The Second age), and would be a good foundation should a RQ Conan follow.

 

[galinor]

What's all this Down with D20 stuff. It remains perhaps the most popular game system available. I thought the new Starwars edition was brilliant and simplified the 3.5 system. The new D&D 4th which is rougly based on SW uses a great system but all the role playing has been taken out and it's just hack and slay and awful. When it falls apart and D&Ders get fed up and want to role play again and not just play an RPG version of magic the gathering maybe mongoose could print a new version of D&D.

How about a fantasy Europe verson of RQ.

 

[Krimson]

What's all this Down with D20 stuff. It remains perhaps the most popular game system available. I thought the new Starwars edition was brilliant and simplified the 3.5 system. The new D&D 4th which is rougly based on SW uses a great system but all the role playing has been taken out and it's just hack and slay and awful. When it falls apart and D&Ders get fed up and want to role play again and not just play an RPG version of magic the gathering maybe mongoose could print a new version of D&D.

How about a fantasy Europe verson of RQ.

I think a lot of people are simply burned out on d20. As for 4e, with the Wraith Recon so far (which doesn't use the GSL), WoC has made 4e support very difficult with their license. As for a new D&D, I think that some are still waiting to see how Pathfinder is received. It may work out well (I know I want the final version), but their beta release, however good, is still an unfinished game. Besides, Mongoose has RuneQuest which is a perfectly usable fantasy system which has many titles under its belt already, so since its there why not use it. It would be nice to see more third party support, considering its an OGL system with its own SRD.

As for your request for a fantasy Europe, it may be a little darker than your tastes but that is exactly what Hawkmoon is.

 

[galinor]

Well that's true Krimson however My main game is Elric/Hawkmoom as I'm a huge Moorcock fan. Hawkmoon is post nuclear disaster. Roman legionaries don't fight the Brythonic Celtic hordes to conquer The Island of Prydain There are no Vikings or Saxons Etc. I feel the Corum stories which are based at least in part on Cornish myths are closer to an RQ European setting. I wonder if RQ Corum will come out.

The use of cultural backgrounds in RQ is Ideal for a dark age Europe and I think would be quite different to a Hawkmoon campaign. Pathfinder sounds interesting.

One point I'm not sue of is if 4th is far less open in it's licence can the older formats of D20 carry one unhindered by the changes at Wizards. Is my B5 campaign in any danger?