Question about Mini-beams

[Methos5000]

In the Revised rulebook it states that mini-beams within 4" are anti-fighter against flights of fighters. So have they been updated since then or does that rule still stand? Im just curious if Mini-beams work against capital ships with a dodge.

Thanks

 

[Greg Smith]

There has been no change. All weapons with the AF trait work against ships of fighters with dodge.

 

[Methos5000]

ah, well that is where im confused then. In the revised rules book one it says that they are anti-fighter versus flights of fighters. So is this an exception to the rule then?

 

[Greg Smith]

No. You are correct that is how it reads. I never spotted that before, I guess I just read it as straight anti-fighter.

 

[Shadow Queen]

in my book it says 3 inches but im a cheepskate and only have Call to Arms V1.0

 

[Locutus9956]

Erm are you sure SQ? Ive got the basica ACTA 1.0 book and mine says mini beams are are anti fighter against fighters at 4". In fact I I've looked at every different version of the rulebook as its come out and never has it said anything but 4" for minibeams. Sure your not thinking of Emine blast radius or something?

I had not actually noticed that bit about 'when targeting fighters' though. So mini beams DONT work anti fighter vs ships with dodge....

 

[Shadow Queen]

ill look later doing some Crix raiders

 

[Chernobyl]

Hmm...never read that bit about only fighters before either...must have just "glossed" over it and assumed just a general "Anti-fighter" trait. Interesting then!

Chern

 

[Fiztbane_65]

so does that also mean that weapons with the "anti-fighter" trait also dont work against capital ships?

 

[Shadow Queen]

if a ship has dodge the ship that fires has "Anti figter" the dodge is dropped

ie A Shadow Scout Vs a White Star

Shadow fires and hits

White Star Cant dodge

 

[Greg Smith]

so does that also mean that weapons with the "anti-fighter" trait also dont work against capital ships?

No the only discrepancy is mini beams which say 'when targeting flights within 4" '

 

[Jhary]

Sorry but theire stands MAY also counted as Anti-Fitghter weapons.
There stands not that they ARE Anti-Fighter.

 

[Target]

I think they just forgot about caps with dodge when they wrote it going by MGP proofing skills.

 

[Locutus9956]

Yeah more than likely but as its writen it states that Mini beams may be counted as anti fighter when firing AGAINST FIGHTER FLIGHTS WITHIN 4". When firing against SHIPS within 4" this doesnt aply.

Weapons that are ACTUALLY antifighter do, however as SQ noted, ignore the dodge trait regardless of what they shoot at.

 

[Silvereye]

So what about Breaching Pods as these do not have the Fighter trait and the wording does not mention Auxillary Craft.

 

[Burger]

Hmm, I'd need to check the wording when I get home (unless someone can quote it word-for-word) but if it says "...gains the Anti-Fighter trait against fighters within 4"" then it could be argued that it applies to all ships and aux craft (except maybe the Explorer!) since they are all fighting ships and therefore fighters, even if they are not Fighters (capitalized Fighters being shorthand for "auxillary craft with the Fighter trait").

 

[Greg Smith]

Burger, it says "...flights within 4" "

Silvereye: breaching pods count as though they have the Fighter trait.

 

[Reaverman]

Hmm, I'd need to check the wording when I get home (unless someone can quote it word-for-word) but if it says "...gains the Anti-Fighter trait against fighters within 4"" then it could be argued that it applies to all ships and aux craft (except maybe the Explorer!) since they are all fighting ships and therefore fighters, even if they are not Fighters (capitalized Fighters being shorthand for "auxillary craft with the Fighter trait").

In Book One of the Rule book it states; "When Targeting Flights within 4", mini beam weapons may also be counted as Anti-Fighter weapons"

 

[locarno24]

since they are all fighting ships and therefore fighters, even if they are not Fighters (capitalized Fighters being shorthand for "auxillary craft with the Fighter trait").

And today's Flocci­nauci­nihili­pili­fication Award for Most Tenuous Reasoning goes to:
Burger!

 

[Burger]

OK thanks... flights would include breaching pods then, but it seems White Stars, Drakh Raiders etc are indeed immune

Woohoo i got a cup \o/