OK, a potential grognard hate fest awaits with this question

[-Daniel-]

We might define grognards differently



My meaning has something to do with:

"It was written down in [book x] on [page y] in [version z] therefore it is true.

It is immutable.

[version z] is the only one true version.

You will be smitten by the Gods of [version z] as a heretic."

Cos, you know, if it was written down it must be right, just like what you read on the internet is right...

:lol:

I know a few of those too. :mrgreen:

 

[Anonymous]

To be misunderstood by you Shawn is not an issue for me.

Granted, it isn't an interesting subject but its a detail that's come up in the prep for a game. It's a trivial thing for sure.

Given your habit of dismissive one liners, it was the perfect subject for you. Was it posted for that reason? No. It's a setting detail I'd like to see clarified. Is it one I can house rule, yes, of course I can. I look to the rules to provide consistency, that becomes the staging area for the setting. Please go ahead and tell me (again) I'm not a real role player.

I've no wish to be banned here so I'll shut up now and remind myself there's a fine reason you're on my ignore list.

 

[-Daniel-]

Is it one I can house rule, yes, of course I can.

I think it is interesting how many Fantasy game settings I have had to create my own because it is a detail overlooked. It is an interesting detail however. :wink:

 

[Condottiere]

1. The second, minute and probably hour is standard, though the hour on a planetary level might be adjusted to fit in more with the rotation.

2. Another interesting issue would be natural human rhythms, if the Vilani retained a sort of seven dayish one, and if others, like the menstrual cycle, did as well.

 

[CosmicGamer]

If I recall correctly, both versions of the Mongoose core rules do not state how long months are or how many are in a year. I don't think they state how long a week or even a year is either.

A setting can use any type of calendar one wishes, but the GM will have to do conversions to make the rules fit.

For the 3I, outside the core book the mongoose books define the 3I setting Imperium as using:

A 365 day year.
Dates use a day and year reference only.
A week is seven days. The days of the week are "named Oneday, Twoday and so forth"
A month is 28 days.
Months are used to refer to lengths of time but rarely to establish dates.

So my interpretation is that the year is not broken into specific months like April, May, and so on. For mortgages, a payment is due every 28 days for 40 years.
I don't think anything in the mortgage rules state how many payments there are in a year. The system some have come up with for 13 months in a year and a one day holiday fits nicely.

For the OP, using the mortgage calculation as written still works fine. If for some reason the mortgage rules do not fit your gaming style or analysis of ship economy for your setting, by all means adjust them.

Now, one could ask in the playtest section for the new core rules to define the 3I calendar, months and mortgage payments better so that people don't use 12 months and then get a surprise when they get the 3I rules and see that all months are 28 days.

 

[Anonymous]

CG, thanks for your post.

A quick search of the current MgT found references to months on 31 pages but no definition. I can see why some would call it nit picking, believe or not I'm trying not to play accountants in space.

I'll go ahead and post a request for the 2nd ed to clarify a calendar.

 

[dragoner]

The 13th month for maintenance makes most sense, imo, spacecraft don't get enough as is.

 

[-Daniel-]

The 13th month for maintenance makes most sense, imo, spacecraft don't get enough as is.

So you would not have to make a mortgage payment during the "maintenance month"?

 

[Anonymous]

I've posted a request for clarification in the general comments for the beta along with a suggestion for how a year breaks down.

Alex or Andrew, please close this thread!

 

[dragoner]

The 13th month for maintenance makes most sense, imo, spacecraft don't get enough as is.

So you would not have to make a mortgage payment during the "maintenance month"?

No, as it is in both the banks and businesses interest for a high value asset to be maintained, and if it is down for a month it isn't generating revenue. That is why part of the life-cycle calcs include insurance, because it would balance out between those three, and if the business couldn't even generate a profit, they'd forfeit the asset, even taking a quick lose in comparison.