nukes
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heavy missiles maybe?
or the mine field from the campaign special features?
Narns had them too (sheridan had to borrow his set form them for the shadow homeworld), but only get emines in the game.
Some things translate very badly to a game. Specifically, things that are really unusual and unique to a character shouldn't become standard tactics for whole fleets. This is part of where the whole jump point bomb discussion starts though.... so carefully stepping away from the thread.... carefully....
Ripple
or the mine field from the campaign special features?
Narns had them too (sheridan had to borrow his set form them for the shadow homeworld), but only get emines in the game.
Some things translate very badly to a game. Specifically, things that are really unusual and unique to a character shouldn't become standard tactics for whole fleets. This is part of where the whole jump point bomb discussion starts though.... so carefully stepping away from the thread.... carefully....
Ripple
The ambush in which Sheridan destroyed the Drala'Fi was a unique stuation - EA's only victory in the Minbari war.
It *was* covered in Greg Smith's Earth-Minbari War supplement with special scenario rules, although that's now obsolete with the appearance of 2nd edition.
It may re-appear in updated 2e format, perhaps as a .pdf or an article in Signs & Portents.
It *was* covered in Greg Smith's Earth-Minbari War supplement with special scenario rules, although that's now obsolete with the appearance of 2nd edition.
It may re-appear in updated 2e format, perhaps as a .pdf or an article in Signs & Portents.
Well the fact that Sheidan's ship carried nukes, does set a precedent that Hyperion-class cruisers carry nukes as standard. During the E-M war, at least.
Maybe they do translate as "heavy missiles" but I think in the series they were far more destructive. And that really is the problem: killing a Sharlin with 2 or 3 shots from a Hyperion would be far too unbalanced for a game.
Maybe they do translate as "heavy missiles" but I think in the series they were far more destructive. And that really is the problem: killing a Sharlin with 2 or 3 shots from a Hyperion would be far too unbalanced for a game.
Lord David the Denied
Mongoose
The nuclear weapons carried on the Lexington were clearly strategic devices, not general-deployment arms.
Lord David the Denied
Mongoose
Same reason any unit would carry strategic arms - so they're availabe for use when ordered. Some modern ships carry nukes but they don't break them out every time they light off a missile.
Sheridan was officer commanding when the nukes were used.
Sheridan was officer commanding when the nukes were used.
So you're saying he was just lucky (or, plotty? Is that a word?) that there happened to be nukes on board this particular Hypeion?Lord David the Denied said:
He wasn't commanding officer when the nukes were loaded onto the Hyperion... if he were then it would be explainable... "I'm not commanding any ship that doesn't have a full compliment of NUKES!"
Greg Smith
Mongoose
Nomad said:
I can't take the credit - I didn't write it.
Shadow Queen
Mongoose
it was Bryan Steele's book, I did a second edition Update.
Lord David the Denied
Mongoose
Burger said:
It's much more likely every Hyperion carries nukes, since we know Lexington was on a pretty routine patrol. Not likely to include nuclear weapons as a mission-specific payload.
Shadow Queen
Mongoose
just waite for my Earth/ Minbari War Update. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Most likely every Hyperion (and more likely every Omega, Warlock, Marathon has them) and they are under severe restrictions for use. Sufficiently severe (and especially after SanFran was nuked) and taboo that most captains never even think about them.
But Sheridan being the "think outside the box" "kill the enemy" "Hey! It's Deep Space! Fallout doesn't matter!" kind of thinker that he is, the nukes were a viable last option...
But Sheridan being the "think outside the box" "kill the enemy" "Hey! It's Deep Space! Fallout doesn't matter!" kind of thinker that he is, the nukes were a viable last option...
Shadow Queen
Mongoose
Taran said:
It was San Diego that was Nuked
Shadow Queen
Mongoose
Would there ba a space born EMP??
Burger said:
If there is a sufficient taboo, it doesn't matter what the situation is, most people won't even consider it. There are plenty of RL examples out there. Think Japan and a standing military, let alone Japan and Nuclear Weapons... The Japanese, as a whole, are terrified of the idea of having Their Own standing army. They will not even countenance the idea and the current troubles with their government really started to boil when their last administration brought up the possibility of changing their constitution to allow a standing army again.
Another example, you and your wife (or child) are being chased by a bear. You know you're going to die because you can't outrun it. Now, the possibility exists that you could trip the other person or throw him or him at the bear. Well you survive. But would you even consider the option?
@Derina: Yes.
