Languages spoken in the world

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Wistomaniac

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Starting up a RQ game in Glorantha, but I can't seem to find any information on what languages are spoken where, the areas I'm interested in are; Prax, Ralios and Kralorela :P would also be helpful with a list of languages and where they are spoken if such is a thing is available. Any help would be appreciated
 
Prax: Pavic & Praxian (Tradetalk, Sartarite, Old Wyrmish?)
Ralios: Ralian, and probably some Seshnegi?
Kralorela: ...? Anyone with the old books in their proximity?

The subject has been up before. Why languages wasn't included in the Glorantha-book is beyond my understanding.

Trif.
 
ah, yeah 2nd age indeed. Easiest books to get ahold on and there really should be a list for people like me who hasn't played the game before :P
 
Wistomaniac said:
ah, yeah 2nd age indeed. Easiest books to get ahold on and there really should be a list for people like me who hasn't played the game before :P
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It's an unfortunate omission, especially since even knowing the 3rd Age details doesn't always help; for instance, I'd presume that the Orlanthi people of Dragon Pass speak a language that is at least related to 3rd Age Sartarite, but since Sartar isn't even born yet, it can't be called that. Kethaelan, maybe? Furthermore, since Tradetalk has been spread about by the Godlearners relatively recently, I'd assume that there are still some areas (Kralorela or Peloria, say) where it isn't widely known.

And anyone not familar with previous incarnations of RQ is left high and dry.

I was kind of hoping it might be in the Players' Book but it's not mentioned in this thread so I'm not sure.

If not, a web enhancement or similar might be a very good idea.
 
I really really hope it'll be in the players guide. Its a rather unforgivable omission.

I tend to assume one language for every large area on the map.
 
Bear in mind that in the 2nd Age two lingua francas emerge. The godlearners use a language called Tradetalk and the Empire of the Wyrm's Friends use Old Wyrmish.

Orlanthi in Dragon Pass and the Holy Country will tend to speak Hendrieki (from the Heortland Orlanthi originally), but those north of Dragon Pass speak Pelorian (not the same language as the Pelorian spoken by the Lunar Empire in the 3rd age).
 
Orlanthi around dragon Pass May not speak sartarite yet, but the languege would be similiar, Like old english compared to modern english.. But a language chart that showed which languages where related to which would be nice.
 
TRose said:
the languege would be similiar, Like old english compared to modern english..
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Though, to be fair, the entire population of England wasn't exterminated by vengeful dragons in 1066 and then the country repopulated by descendants of those few that had escaped to France, several hundred years later.... :lol:
 
Wistomaniac said:
Starting up a RQ game in Glorantha, but I can't seem to find any information on what languages are spoken where, the areas I'm interested in are; Prax, Ralios and Kralorela :P would also be helpful with a list of languages and where they are spoken if such is a thing is available. Any help would be appreciated
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Off the top of my head ...

Prax: Praxian, Sun Domer (Sun County), Old Pavic (Pavis), Auld Wyrmish (Pavis), Pure Horse/Pentian (Pure Horse Folk), Riverspeech (Zola Fel), Oasistongue (Oases), Earthtongue (Paps), Firespeech (Sun County, Ostrich Tribe, Unicorn Maidens), Tradetalk (Feroda), Jrusteli (Feroda).

Some of the minor tribes in Prax speak their own languages as well, so the Bolo Lizard Riders speak Bolo Lizard Tongue which is related to Earthspeech and Oasistongue.

Sun Domer and Old Pavic are related and are similar to the Theyalan languages spoken in Dragon Pass and the Shadowlands.


Ralios: Western Dialects, Darktongue, Various Hsunchen Dialects, Tradetalk, Auld Wyrmish.

Kralorela: Kralori, Draconic, Various Hsunchen Dialects, Tradetalk, Jrusteli.

Clearly, I am a bit sketchy on Ralios and Kralorela, less so on Prax.
 
ninthcouncil said:
TRose said:
the languege would be similiar, Like old english compared to modern english..
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Though, to be fair, the entire population of England wasn't exterminated by vengeful dragons in 1066 and then the country repopulated by descendants of those few that had escaped to France, several hundred years later.... :lol:
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They'd be closer than that. The Dragons only killed people up to the Cross Line/Death Line, or perhaps a bit further. So, there would have been a lot of people from the North (Peloria) and the South (Shadowlands) who survived Dragonkill and retained their own language. They would have purged the languages of Draconic influence and might have become a bit more traditional, but the languages wouldn't have changed that much.

After all, in the 3rd Age, Sun Domer as spoken in Prax Sun County is still similar to Sartarite, which is derived from the Heortland languages of the Shadowlands as they became the Holy Country. Only a couple of centuries had passed between Dragonkill and the founding of Sartar, so the language wouldn't have changed that much.
 
Ha! 10 out ot 10 for spotting the deliberate error. Glad to see you are awake at the back! :lol:

Of course, Pavic becomes Old Pavic after New Pavis is settled.

So, Pavisites speak Pavic, which is still related to Sun Domer and whatever they speak in Dragon Pass.
 
thanks for the info posted so far ^^ it's really helping out, another thing that came up as a question is the names in those places, since I haven't seen any examples names to give you some hints about it anywhere, I'm curious ;)

A online list with languages spoken and some examples of names would be great, I'm sure there are a lot of you out there with alot of information, now if someone took the responsibilty of having f.eks a webpage with the info, everyone could post what they've come to know and have the responsible person update the site as new info came in. ofcourse this might be a huge job, what do I know - but it will really help the interest of the game and glorantha as a setting for new players.
 
Ian Cooper said:
Bear in mind that in the 2nd Age two lingua francas emerge. The godlearners use a language called Tradetalk and the Empire of the Wyrm's Friends use Old Wyrmish.

Orlanthi in Dragon Pass and the Holy Country will tend to speak Hendrieki (from the Heortland Orlanthi originally), but those north of Dragon Pass speak Pelorian (not the same language as the Pelorian spoken by the Lunar Empire in the 3rd age).
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Ian is absolutely right. Orlanthi in the Dragon Pass area (including the Hendrikings) speak Heortling at this time. The split between the northern and southern Heortling tongues is a result of the Dragonkill.

Jeff
 
richaje said:
Ian Cooper said:
Bear in mind that in the 2nd Age two lingua francas emerge. The godlearners use a language called Tradetalk and the Empire of the Wyrm's Friends use Old Wyrmish.

Orlanthi in Dragon Pass and the Holy Country will tend to speak Hendrieki (from the Heortland Orlanthi originally), but those north of Dragon Pass speak Pelorian (not the same language as the Pelorian spoken by the Lunar Empire in the 3rd age).
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Ian is absolutely right. Orlanthi in the Dragon Pass area (including the Hendrikings) speak Heortling at this time. The split between the northern and southern Heortling tongues is a result of the Dragonkill.

Jeff
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A quick check of my RQ3 stuff suggests 2nd age Orlanthi still speak a language called Theyalan which later forms the basis for Sartarite, Heorting & New Pavic.
 
CharlieMonster said:
A quick check of my RQ3 stuff suggests 2nd age Orlanthi still speak a language called Theyalan which later forms the basis for Sartarite, Heorting & New Pavic.
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I wouldn't rely too heavily on RQ3 appendixes for Gloranthan historical background. Although Greg and I both believe that all the "Orlanthi" languages are related, we realized when we were writing the history of the Orlanthi in the First Age that some of the RQ3 language material is incorrect. The Heortling languages called "Pelorian Orlanthi" and "Heortlander" or "Sartarite" in RQ3 are very closely related languages - much closer than RQ3 suggested.

Jeff
 
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