How to fight 3 Skirmish against Vree with Drakh?

[jimmor]

Well I actually did play it. It was anihilation or Call to arms. The Vree fielded:

3 x Xeel-class war carrier (4 x Tzymm)

Any ideas how a drakh player is supposed to fight it? I expected Xixx-class torpedo saucers so my choice was:

4 x scout, light raider.

Still have on idea what should I field to have a chance of doing any harm to Vree with three carriers. I have strange feeling that the carriers on their own (without 12 Tzymms) would be enough to destroy any of my choices.

 

[H]

hmm, tough choice for sure. Light raiders have the maneuvreability I guess, but not really the punch, plus they dodge better. I would try two light raiders and 2 scouts. I have done some damage to Vree with the scouts before, and they give you a one ship advantage to ensure even if you loose initiative you should be ok. althoguh you could go all out raiders, forgoing intitiative and squadroning 3 ships to try and take out a suacer in one salvo?

 

[jimmor]

With single salvo of the whole my fleet I managed to heavily damage one carrier (lost random arc, wasn't crippled yet). Then the remaining 2 carriers killed the light raider - 12 AD, SAP, DD proved enough with a lucky crit. And then in the next turn came the Tzymms - I was lucky to escape with single scout...

firepower:

Vree:
18 AD - 15", SAP, DD
48 AD - 4", TL
36 AD - 2", TL, AP

Drakh
16 AD - 10", AP
2 AD - 8", B,P,A

 

[H]

With single salvo of the whole my fleet I managed to heavily damage one carrier (lost random arc, wasn't crippled yet). Then the remaining 2 carriers killed the light raider - 12 AD, SAP, DD proved enough with a lucky crit. And then in the next turn came the Tzymms - I was lucky to escape with single scout...

firepower:

Vree:
18 AD - 15", SAP, DD
48 AD - 4", TL
36 AD - 2", TL, AP

Drakh
16 AD - 10", AP
2 AD - 8", B,P,A

thats the "advanced" race for you eh? damned cattle botherers!

 

[High Sierra]

we do not bother cattle!

its important scientific work which will one day allow us to.... uh..... something or other.

 

[Centauri_Admiral]

The only way I managed to beat vree, although it was a combined leage fleet, but mostly comprised of vree, was to precise them to death using battle lasers. Any races equivalent, and I'm assuming the drakh do have em, should do the trick. I was using centauri playing 6 points of war, I made short work of the 3 battle brakiri ships he was using up front, but the sheer amount of double damage weaponry the vree posess gave me quite a shock.

Easily capable of dealing out the same amount of damage as the ion cannons; like I say the only thing that tipped my favour was the amount of criticals I was dealing, not just high damage criticals, but even the low ones are usefull when you doing about 3-5 to each ship each turn.

I personally deteste the vree fleet; little blighters.

 

[High Sierra]

I could tell you how to beat the Vree,

but then I'd have to kill you. or possibly do something illegal with probes.

 

[Lord David the Denied]

I can see Drakh struggling at so low a level against Vree. Vree fighters are great and Drakh struggle against any decent fighters, plus the Xeel's weapons will eat low-level Drakh ships.

I'd take them on with my Centauri, though... 8)

 

[Triggy]

With beams you're really going to struggle in this encounter, both against the Xeels and the Tzymms.

My recommendation would be to take three Kam're Sas Patrol Cruisers and fly in as hard and fast as possible. Try to get in amongst the saucers to get multiple ships in different arcs, whilst prioritising any fighters that you can shoot at (you have the ideal weapons to kill Tzymms).

 

[H]

With beams you're really going to struggle in this encounter, both against the Xeels and the Tzymms.

My recommendation would be to take three Kam're Sas Patrol Cruisers and fly in as hard and fast as possible. Try to get in amongst the saucers to get multiple ships in different arcs, whilst prioritising any fighters that you can shoot at (you have the ideal weapons to kill Tzymms).

I pondered that, but the patrol cruiser is as maneuvreable as, well, a Narn! ;-) so if you don't do the damage on turn 1/2, you are pretty much out of the fight

 

[Centauri_Admiral]

I could tell you how to beat the Vree,

but then I'd have to kill you. or possibly do something illegal with probes.

Oh you don't have to worry about killing me, I already did beat the vree, with a rather large stick called the Centauri Royal Fleet! :twisted:

But as for probes . . . you shouldn't make flippant promises like that!lol :wink:

 

[Da Boss]

its important scientific work which will one day allow us to.... uh..... something or other.

perhaps be the very best at bothering cattle?

 

[Ripple]

The Vree do seem silly hard with the carrier. No idea how to beat them yet as the fighters have killed me every time I got close enough to start destroying carriers.

Ripple

 

[Taran]

Long-range beams and missiles alongside some anti-fighter defenses...

You know, like the EA and Minbari.

Or throw some ISA at them...


...Oh, wait, 3 Skirmish...
Makes it hard for the ISA and Minbari then. Still, the EA is there with the Missiles...