GypsyComet
Emperor Mongoose
We have an Early war German list in S&P, but nothing explicitly for the British in Europe and North Africa. I've looked at the lists in Pacific War. Are these supposed to cover the whole British effort?
Early War British
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Iain McGhee
Mongoose
Doubt it. I haven't seen the Pacific War supplement myself, but from what I know of that theatre it's unlikely that it covers the early British cruisers and armoured cars. There won't be much difference in the infantry lists for a British early war force, other than Boyes AT rifles (just use any AT rifle stats, they're pretty general) rather than PIATs and earlier AT and air assets. The one in the rulebook is close enough. Agis does a British Vehicle Compendium (there's a link to his homepage from any of his posts) that covers pretty much all the hardware you'll need for the whole war.
If you need the organisation of an early war British infantry unit from Company level down, let me know and I can post the details. I already looked into it when I was picking out armies for WAW a while back (settled on Russians and Germans).
If you need the organisation of an early war British infantry unit from Company level down, let me know and I can post the details. I already looked into it when I was picking out armies for WAW a while back (settled on Russians and Germans).
As Iain says, there really isn't that much variability in British WW2 kit for infantry - the number of Bren guns in any infantry company increased towards the end of the war, PIATs replaced Boyes rifles
2 pounders originally started in the hands of the infantry, but by the time of the 6pdr AIUI AT guns had been passed back over to the RA.
Artillery whole war consisted largely of 25pdrs with some 105mm SP guns during the NA campaign, and later Pack Howitzers (75mm) for the Paras.
Tanks obviously had the greatest variability throughout the war, but they weren't exactly that numerous in the battle of France (stat up the Matilda 1, 2 and Vickers light Mk VI and you're set). In Africa all you need is the early cruiser marks, before you stray into Valentine, Crusader, early (a few 6pdr) Churchills...
Air assets also saw a great deal of flux, and in NA the 8th army certainly had access to plenty... Warhawks for the most part, Havocs (Boston IIIs as far as the DAF was concerned) and cannon armed Hurricanes IIRC.
2 pounders originally started in the hands of the infantry, but by the time of the 6pdr AIUI AT guns had been passed back over to the RA.
Artillery whole war consisted largely of 25pdrs with some 105mm SP guns during the NA campaign, and later Pack Howitzers (75mm) for the Paras.
Tanks obviously had the greatest variability throughout the war, but they weren't exactly that numerous in the battle of France (stat up the Matilda 1, 2 and Vickers light Mk VI and you're set). In Africa all you need is the early cruiser marks, before you stray into Valentine, Crusader, early (a few 6pdr) Churchills...
Air assets also saw a great deal of flux, and in NA the 8th army certainly had access to plenty... Warhawks for the most part, Havocs (Boston IIIs as far as the DAF was concerned) and cannon armed Hurricanes IIRC.
As Alexb83 and Iain McGhee said...
If you need any Vehicles, try my British and Commonwealth Vehicle Compendium.
http://www.wargamevault.com/product_info.php?products_id=60474&filters=0_0_0
If you need any Vehicles, try my British and Commonwealth Vehicle Compendium.
http://www.wargamevault.com/product_info.php?products_id=60474&filters=0_0_0
GypsyComet
Emperor Mongoose
I actually have all of Agis' PDFs (except Americans, who are waiting for next payday) already. Tank stats are taken care of. It was the infantry equipment and organization (and point values) and the relative availability of support and armor I was looking for (such as, for example, the Pacific War book having an early war armor asset slot handle up to three Honeys, but only one Grant).
GypsyComet
Emperor Mongoose
The Pacific War list and PDFs will do for now. I just though it an unusual gap in the material.
Iain McGhee
Mongoose
The way Pacific War treats British Armour seems close enough for any pre-1944 force.
Infantry organisation isn't much different to the original rulebook.
Support and Command squads+teams could be used as is.
Infantry squads early on would be 9 rifles and a Bren gun, perhaps an SMG or two by 1942 as well. Each company would be 1 command squad, 3 rifle squads (called sections) and some support teams (usually 1x 2" mortar, 3x AT rifle and 2x Bren gun teams, 2 men in each, per infantry company). heavier mortars and 2pdr AT guns could be attached from the Support Company. 6pdrs and PIATs turned up around the middle of 1942 with 17pdrs towards the end of 1943.
Infantry organisation isn't much different to the original rulebook.
Support and Command squads+teams could be used as is.
Infantry squads early on would be 9 rifles and a Bren gun, perhaps an SMG or two by 1942 as well. Each company would be 1 command squad, 3 rifle squads (called sections) and some support teams (usually 1x 2" mortar, 3x AT rifle and 2x Bren gun teams, 2 men in each, per infantry company). heavier mortars and 2pdr AT guns could be attached from the Support Company. 6pdrs and PIATs turned up around the middle of 1942 with 17pdrs towards the end of 1943.
