Creatures of Legend
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Broo, Scorpionmen, Ducks, Aldryami, Mostali, Uz, and Dragonewts are all Glorantha creatures.
What else is missing?
What else is missing?
Although I don't have Monsters of Legend comparing the index with Monster Coliseum adds these entries to those already mentioned. I've included their origins to distinguish why some were left out (IP issues) although it doesn't explain all of them.
Gwenthia: Iqari
Glorantha: Bolo Lizard, Demi-Bird, Dragonsnail, Gorp, Grotaron, Jack o' Bear, Karrg Beetle, Morokanth, Newtling, Scorpion Man, Slarge, Timinit, Walktapus
Myth & Legend: Stoorworm, Chonchon, Fachan
Unknown: Grampus, Headhanger
I think the Stoorworm has been renamed Wurm. I'm not sure why as the Stoorworm is from Scottish legend so should be public domain. Similarly for Chonchon (Chile) and Fachan (Scottish).
I also don't see why Ducks are considered Gloranthan IP as anthropomorphic water fowl are clearly stolen from/inspired by Howard the Duck and Donald Duck. I should note that Duck and Headhanger are listed in BRP Creatures which is the RQ3's Creatures book stripped of all Gloranthan IP.
Jim.
Gwenthia: Iqari
Glorantha: Bolo Lizard, Demi-Bird, Dragonsnail, Gorp, Grotaron, Jack o' Bear, Karrg Beetle, Morokanth, Newtling, Scorpion Man, Slarge, Timinit, Walktapus
Myth & Legend: Stoorworm, Chonchon, Fachan
Unknown: Grampus, Headhanger
I think the Stoorworm has been renamed Wurm. I'm not sure why as the Stoorworm is from Scottish legend so should be public domain. Similarly for Chonchon (Chile) and Fachan (Scottish).
I also don't see why Ducks are considered Gloranthan IP as anthropomorphic water fowl are clearly stolen from/inspired by Howard the Duck and Donald Duck. I should note that Duck and Headhanger are listed in BRP Creatures which is the RQ3's Creatures book stripped of all Gloranthan IP.
Jim.
Mikko Leho
Mongoose
Scorpion men are from Babylonian mythology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpion_man
And while demi-birds are probably older, you could have "re-imagined" or re-named them something like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocobo
And while demi-birds are probably older, you could have "re-imagined" or re-named them something like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocobo
Simulacrum
Mongoose
Scorpion Men - I asked some time ago what the position is on Scorpion Men, and was told they are Glorantha-exclusive. I'm aware of the the ancient near eastern origin, but thought it best to excise some that were in AoT original draft to save hassle at that point. I'd probably put them back in at a future date but rewrite stats ground up.
Grampus - this is a giant grampus, also known as a vinegaroon or whipscorpion, just as a Giant Scorpion is a giant scorpion. So it's just a real world bug made giant. It's also in AoT - I hadn't realised it was dropped from MoL as AoT went to press before it was compiled, so that's something I'll need to put in the AoT companion as an erratum (alongside elementals, which are also missing)
Grampus - this is a giant grampus, also known as a vinegaroon or whipscorpion, just as a Giant Scorpion is a giant scorpion. So it's just a real world bug made giant. It's also in AoT - I hadn't realised it was dropped from MoL as AoT went to press before it was compiled, so that's something I'll need to put in the AoT companion as an erratum (alongside elementals, which are also missing)
Rikki Tikki Traveller
Cosmic Mongoose
You would have to base your Scorpion-men on that historical/mythological origin (or make them from scratch), but you would also have to be careful to make sure you didn't use the Gloriantha-specific stuff.
Mythology has a LOT of creatures that could be generalized for Creatures of Legend... Write them up and submit it to Matt and see what happens!
Mythology has a LOT of creatures that could be generalized for Creatures of Legend... Write them up and submit it to Matt and see what happens!
Nickbergquist
Mongoose
A lot of the Gloranthan monsters are analogs to existing mythological monsters or creatures that have appeared in similar form in fiction, so I'm really hoping that a more distinct MoL II comes out soon that introduces Legend-specific iterations of these creatures.
Broo, for example, have an analog in D&D called Ibixians, and the idea of beastmen is nothing new to fantasy.
Slaarg were a useful lizardfolk fill-in, but now Legend needs actual lizardmen to replace them. Also, serpent men (who have been surprisingly under-represnted, given how prominent they are in the kind of pulp fantasy that Legend fits so well with).
The disappearance of dragonnewts has left us with gaps for more lizardfolk-like monsters, including kobold-type-thingies that 1st stage dragonnewts worked well as, and then second and third stage dragonnewts (dragon men).
Some things are way too Glorantha-specific to be translatable, I guess; I love the walktapus and jack-o-bear, but I guess I'll just hang onto my Monster Coliseum for their stats.
Broo, for example, have an analog in D&D called Ibixians, and the idea of beastmen is nothing new to fantasy.
Slaarg were a useful lizardfolk fill-in, but now Legend needs actual lizardmen to replace them. Also, serpent men (who have been surprisingly under-represnted, given how prominent they are in the kind of pulp fantasy that Legend fits so well with).
The disappearance of dragonnewts has left us with gaps for more lizardfolk-like monsters, including kobold-type-thingies that 1st stage dragonnewts worked well as, and then second and third stage dragonnewts (dragon men).
Some things are way too Glorantha-specific to be translatable, I guess; I love the walktapus and jack-o-bear, but I guess I'll just hang onto my Monster Coliseum for their stats.
alex_greene
Guest
We definitely need Lizardmen, Serpent People, elementals, Pegasi, Hellhounds and rules on creating monsters for one's own settings.
Also, we need more solid - pardon the expression - rules for spirits. Elementals in particular. I want to see the difference between basic elementals and elemental spirits as described in the spirit magic supplement.
Also, we need more solid - pardon the expression - rules for spirits. Elementals in particular. I want to see the difference between basic elementals and elemental spirits as described in the spirit magic supplement.
Prime_Evil
Emperor Mongoose
I've been assembling a list of the creatures needed for the swords & sorcery campaign setting that I am working on - which includes such things as animated stone idols, bat demons, and carnivorous apes. I'm also assembling a list of useful generic NPCS, which range from Amazon Priestess to Mercenary Veteran to Pirate Captain 
Prime_Evil said:I'm also assembling a list of useful generic NPCS, which range from Amazon Priestess to Mercenary Veteran to Pirate Captain
Atm, I'm writing a rather complete set of horror story scenarios, wherein such things as doctors, butchers and bankers will also have stats. I guess I'm uploading them to somewhere when they are done, so there's a few more NPCs to choose from.
