Centauri ships in Narn service

[wkehrman]

Just curious if there's anything out there about this. The Narn gained their freedom about the time of the Dilgar War, depending on which source one reads. The fleet book states that the Narn took over a lot of old, abandoned Centauri stuff and converted it for their own use. Has anyone taken this to its logical conclusion?

 

[H]

the first edition supplement Dawn of Retribution had a Narn Vorchan

it was this

Vorchan

When the Narn liberators reached the orbital shipyards, they were astounded to find
several ships in dock. These ships had been brought in for maintenance, and due to
the rapid withdrawal of Centauri forces, had been abandoned. Explosives were found
which implied they should have been blown up, but fortune smiled on the Narn, and
they had some ready made interstellar starships. Making minor adjustments, these
ships became the first ships in Narn service
Speed: 12 Damage: 15/5 Craft: None
Turn: 2/45 Crew: 24/7 Special Rules: Jump Point
Hull: 5 Troops: 4 In Service: 2160 (Centauri in service date)
Light Pulse Cannon 8 F 6
Heavy Plasma Cannon 12 B 4 AP,DD


please not this was based upon the 1st edition Vorchan, so is now probably underpowered thanks to 2nd ed power creep.

 

[wkehrman]

How does this ship compare to Centauri Vorchans in the first ed.? I s'pose we could bodge together a house rule Narn Vorchan. Our Narn player loves the notion of a Centauri ship painted in Narn colors!

 

[H]

umm, I'll have to check. I "may" have an updated second ed version somewhere

 

[dag'karlove]

This would be beautiful

 

[wkehrman]

umm, I'll have to check. I "may" have an updated second ed version somewhere

Forget it, I just realized that burger kept his 1st ed stuff up on his site, I'll check it there.

EDIT

Just 'cuz I like tinkering...the upgrade would be something like this

Speed:12 Damage 19/5 (Based on 2ed Vorchan) Crew 28/7 (Extrapolated)
Turn: 2/45 Special: Agile, Atmospheric, Jump Engine (2ed Vorchan)
Hull: 5 Troops:4 In Service 2160

Light Pulse Cannon 8 F 12 (Extrapolated)
Heavy Plasma Cannon 12 B 4 AP/DD

 

[silashand]

Speed:12 Damage 19/5 (Based on 2ed Vorchan) Crew 28/7 (Extrapolated)
Turn: 2/45 Special: Agile, Atmospheric, Jump Engine (2ed Vorchan)
Hull: 5 Troops:4 In Service 2160

Light Pulse Cannon 8 F 12 (Extrapolated)
Heavy Plasma Cannon 12 B 4 AP/DD

I'd have no trouble with it. Of course, I thought you said you were tired of painting orange? ;-)

And why wouldn't you just use the existing rules for the Vorchan? Is there a reason for the speed change/weapons fit change in the fluff for it? If the Narn found them in the docks I'd think they just fix 'em up and use them as is instead of doing a wholesale refit. JMO though...

Cheers, Gary

 

[wkehrman]

Speed:12 Damage 19/5 (Based on 2ed Vorchan) Crew 28/7 (Extrapolated)
Turn: 2/45 Special: Agile, Atmospheric, Jump Engine (2ed Vorchan)
Hull: 5 Troops:4 In Service 2160

Light Pulse Cannon 8 F 12 (Extrapolated)
Heavy Plasma Cannon 12 B 4 AP/DD

I'd have no trouble with it. Of course, I thought you said you were tired of painting orange? ;-)

And why wouldn't you just use the existing rules for the Vorchan? Is there a reason for the speed change/weapons fit change in the fluff for it? As I said, it looks fine as far as I can tell. I just don't understand the reason for the change. If the Narn found them in the docks I'd think they just fix 'em up and use them as is instead of doing a wholesale refit. JMO though...

Cheers, Gary

For the specifics of why, we'd have to ask Mongoose, it was their creation.

As for what I did, hiffano posted a ship out of the 1st edition. When I compared it to the 1st edition Centauri Vorchan, it is different. From that I extrapolated what the Narn Vorchan might look like in 2nd ed.

To generate fluff, presumably the ships were in various states of disrepair, some might not have even possessed weapons. The Narn might not have had experience with the Plasma Accelerators and Twin Particle Arrays of the Centauri ship (or Ion Cannons as in 2nd ed.). As a result, they had to swap out the weapons with something they knew until they could figure out the aforementioned weapons. As to the crew and troop changes, the Fleet Book states that the Narn made the Centauri ships more utilitarian, removing all of the non-essential power drains and empty spaces. Thus, more troops and more crew.

 

[silashand]

Ah, no worries. I went looking for the original stats and couldn't find them online. Thus I wondered.

I guess this is payback for putting a Narn as a hood ornament on my Adira... ;-)

Cheers, Gary

 

[H]

the Narn would strip out the more complex systems and replace them with weapons and componets they know, this would lead to a drop in performance as not everything would be compatible

 

[skavendan]

the Narn would strip out the more complex systems and replace them with weapons and componets they know, this would lead to a drop in performance as not everything would be compatible

If it were me I would go mmm how much explodives do you think we could get in there and how close to centauri prime before someone tries to shoot her down?

 

[H]

Speed:12 Damage 19/5 (Based on 2ed Vorchan) Crew 28/7 (Extrapolated)
Turn: 2/45 Special: Agile, Atmospheric, Jump Engine (2ed Vorchan)
Hull: 5 Troops:4 In Service 2160

Light Pulse Cannon 8 F 12 (Extrapolated)
Heavy Plasma Cannon 12 B 4 AP/DD

I'd have no trouble with it. Of course, I thought you said you were tired of painting orange? ;-)

And why wouldn't you just use the existing rules for the Vorchan? Is there a reason for the speed change/weapons fit change in the fluff for it? As I said, it looks fine as far as I can tell. I just don't understand the reason for the change. If the Narn found them in the docks I'd think they just fix 'em up and use them as is instead of doing a wholesale refit. JMO though...

Cheers, Gary

For the specifics of why, we'd have to ask Mongoose, it was their creation.

As for what I did, hiffano posted a ship out of the 1st edition. When I compared it to the 1st edition Centauri Vorchan, it is different. From that I extrapolated what the Narn Vorchan might look like in 2nd ed.

To generate fluff, presumably the ships were in various states of disrepair, some might not have even possessed weapons. The Narn might not have had experience with the Plasma Accelerators and Twin Particle Arrays of the Centauri ship (or Ion Cannons as in 2nd ed.). As a result, they had to swap out the weapons with something they knew until they could figure out the aforementioned weapons. As to the crew and troop changes, the Fleet Book states that the Narn made the Centauri ships more utilitarian, removing all of the non-essential power drains and empty spaces. Thus, more troops and more crew.

just a wee clarification. It was not mongooses creation, it was mine and Morgoths for a 1st ed supplement

 

[wkehrman]

just a wee clarification. It was not mongooses creation, it was mine and Morgoths for a 1st ed supplement

Apologies, credit where credit is due...

 

[OnlyTheShadowKnows]

How about kitbashing a Narn ship with a Centari ship...didn't they use the shells of Centari ships? It was claimed by Londo when he was approached about the attacks on shipping lanes.

 

[David Anla Shok']

How does this ship compare to Centauri Vorchans in the first ed.? I s'pose we could bodge together a house rule Narn Vorchan. Our Narn player loves the notion of a Centauri ship painted in Narn colors!

Yeah. He's a fruit....

 

[dag'karlove]

How does this ship compare to Centauri Vorchans in the first ed.? I s'pose we could bodge together a house rule Narn Vorchan. Our Narn player loves the notion of a Centauri ship painted in Narn colors!

Yeah. He's a fruit....

Dont be angy cause i get to add cheese you didnt think of and try first.

 

[David Anla Shok']

How does this ship compare to Centauri Vorchans in the first ed.? I s'pose we could bodge together a house rule Narn Vorchan. Our Narn player loves the notion of a Centauri ship painted in Narn colors!

Yeah. He's a fruit....

Dont be angy cause i get to add cheese you didnt think of and try first.

Who's angry? It just means that Gary and I will have to add more Narn hood ornaments...

 

[dag'karlove]

Thats Ok Ill just step up my campaign against the centauri and obliterate any and all ships that i see that arent painted in Narn Orange.

 

[David Anla Shok']

Thats Ok Ill just step up my campaign against the centauri and obliterate any and all ships that i see that arent painted in Narn Orange.

Ok everyone! Get ready to rehearse that quaking in your boots dance..

 

[dag'karlove]

Ohh No no no you seem to forget everytime ive gone against the centuari (whoever has played them) with My Narn I have Wrecked them. So Yes you should get that shaking in your boots thing going on.