Can the Adria Royal Battle Cruiser use Mass Driver's?

[alien027]

Can the Adria Royal Battle Cruiser use Mass Driver's? And Mass Driver can shoot to a Ship than is inmovalise or in under command full stop?

 

[Rynar]

No It can't. (doesn't have the option)

And all ships that have NOT moved the previous movement phase for what reason whatsoever can be shot at by mass drivers. 8)

 

[alien027]

Non Centaury ship has direct this option, in the book of Sky full of stars page 16 give to all Centaury ship the option to use a Mas driver, but you must loose 5 ad in your foward Facincing twin partical array. But I want to know if the Adira has a speacial restriction.

BTW: All the new weapond in the Armagedon book acan oar Can't do Planetary bonbarment?

 

[Lord David the Denied]

The option isn't for all Centauri ships. It's for Primus-class battlecruisers and Octurion-class battleships. No other Centauri ship can fit mass drivers.

 

[WickedE]

I'd not want to lose the massive 20AD Particle Array in exchange for a Driver that could only be fired once and a while!

 

[alien027]

you do not want to loose 5 AD TL for 8 AD triper damage?

 

[Chernobyl]

how often is your opponent going to be immobilized? if you're attacking a space station, maybe...

Chern

 

[Lord David the Denied]

It's 5AD for the Primus, the Octurion loses 8AD. If the Adira could have a mass driver it'd probably lose 10 or 12AD from its twin array...

 

[Chernobyl]

if I recall its about half the AD. In any case, presently, the Adira can't because there's no specific allowance for it (that I'm aware of). But based on its size, it could probably mount nore than one system.
Chern

 

[LaranosTZ]

Well, and remember, the centauri were only mounting mass drivers during the centauri/narn war or retribution. When Londo took over one of the things he 'assured' Sheriden was that those weapons wouldn't be used again. *shrug* If they kept their word, (doubtfull, but you never know,) then the Adira has no mass drivers, because it was never designed to mount them.

 

[Slightly Norse John]

I reckon they're over- rated. I have occasionally managed to use them on ship targets, and they're a disappointment- even more so in bombardment. Immobile target is well enough, makes sense, but slow loading really reduces their potential. What I usually do is reckon up the odds in troops, and if I have any advantage, attempt to board. It works, it's better for VP, and it's more dramatic.
Oh, yes, the Octurion; it gives up half it's forward twin arrays to mount two mass drivers, not one. I would make that shift, because the Twin Arrays are precious little use anyway.

 

[alien027]

But the thing I like most of the mass driver is when the troops at the enemy planet look like this!

 

[Slightly Norse John]

My main objection is that the Primus and Octurion are too valuable in their primary space combat role to be used as bombardment ships.
I know it's canon, it was a Primus or at least Primus- series hull we saw firing the things, that much is unavoidable. I just don't think it makes operational sense.
With current stats, a Primus shooting at emplacements will take out an average fourteen a round. A mass driver only adds an average six a round. Big Furry Deal.
I'd sooner see them on actual assault ships, probably a variant of the Balvarin.

 

[captainsmirk]

Perhaps the Primus and Octurion are the only ships with enough power to fire the things or big enough to actually mount them...

Ignoring the ridiculous over abundance of them in the Dilgar fleet...

Nick

 

[alien027]

We gonna start a campain in two week and have a Secundus with a Mass driver, This ship is the Ideal ship for a mass driver and later send troop to a planet. :twisted:

 

[Lord David the Denied]

My main objection is that the Primus and Octurion are too valuable in their primary space combat role to be used as bombardment ships.
I know it's canon, it was a Primus or at least Primus- series hull we saw firing the things, that much is unavoidable. I just don't think it makes operational sense.
With current stats, a Primus shooting at emplacements will take out an average fourteen a round. A mass driver only adds an average six a round. Big Furry Deal.
I'd sooner see them on actual assault ships, probably a variant of the Balvarin.

The Primus can only use its lasers on ground targets, though. Take half the twin array dice away and get an 8AD TD weapon that can fire on ground targets. Not a bad deal, really. Makes even more sense for the Secundus, as none of its weapons can fire on ground targets as it stands.

 

[Slightly Norse John]

The bombardment rules specifically prohibit ships from firing on planetary and vessel targets in the same round, so the Primus would be firing lasers at the planet no matter what. If it's tactically safe for it to do that, it's a moot point, because (now, with the Armageddon rewrite) it has all the time it needs anyway once the defending fleet is toast.
Between Battle lasers and Matter Cannon, and on the Dilgar side Bolters and Disruptor Torpedoes, the species with mass drivers actually have the most effective existing planetary attack power anyway and need them the least. This is slightly bizarre, but what the heck, it saves time.
As a matter of interest, an Octurion with twin mass drivers could be expected to take out forty- eight emplacements in the first round of bombardment fire. Fourteen of those are Beam dependent, could be more could be less- but that's enough to strip the fixed defences in anything less than a War level scenario, and come close even then.
Without them, twenty- four a round.