BFE cover and obscured line of site.

[Galactic Fatt Patt]

When do you get cover and when do you get obscured line of site.
Hedges?
Top of Buildings?
Looking around a corner?
thanx

 

[rvrratt]

and please give an example of seeing thru cover using size please. For example a tank (size 4) shooting at a grunt (size 1) behind a wall.

 

[Greg Smith]

Hedges: both units are obscured if the hedge is between the units but neither is touching it. If one unit is touching the hedge it is in cover.

The top of a building: any unit within a terrain peice can claim cover. Remember any terrain peice that a unit can move through is considered cover.

Looking around a corner: if a model is partially obscured by the corner of a building, but is not touching that building, it is obscured. If it is touching the building it is in cover.

Seeing through cover: a wall 3" high but only 1/4" thick - the wall is in a battle zone, so has numerous small holes as well as windows and doorways. An infantry model is touching the wall, so can see through it and fire freely through it. Similarly any model targeting that unit may see it, although it will be in cover.

A more size related example: a woods terrain peice. If the tank is within 4" of the edge of the woods it can fire out and be fired at. If the infantryman is within 1" he may fire out and be fired upon. If the bothe the tank and the infantry model are within the woods they can see each other at a distance of 5".

 

[Turtle]

Now, where is that rule where infantry 1" from a corner and touching the corner makes the infantry visible and in cover?

I didn't see that rule anywhere in the basic rules. Nor is a corner something that the model can move through.

 

[Mr Evil]

Now, where is that rule where infantry 1" from a corner and touching the corner makes the infantry visible and in cover?

I didn't see that rule anywhere in the basic rules. Nor is a corner something that the model can move through.

its to do with mini size stat

as to greg, excelent exsplantion of the rules, thats how we read them as well.

problem arises what if building is a corner piece, and one side is totaly open but has a floor, is that floor counted as cover to represent bits of rubble all over the place, evan if LOS isnt evan hindered ? this is what me and my friends are thinking about at the mo as far as my terrain goese, we may call for cover to represent the fact debry would be all over and the figs would make best use of it rather than standing around chatting.

but when los is so clear its a hard call as there is no obscurment of the mini

 

[Greg Smith]

Evil, if they are within the terrain peice that is cover. At the open day there was a game in the Middle East town terrain which troops moved inside the hotel building. Although there was nothing in the building model, only flat floor, it counts as cover. Old Bear regaled us with a description of the bar and the front desk and gave bad imitations of accented hotel staff.

 

[Turtle]

Nope still seeing nothing under the size stat or in the rules that implies that a unit 1" from the corner gets cover.

 

[Greg Smith]

Nope still seeing nothing under the size stat or in the rules that implies that a unit 1" from the corner gets cover.

I didn't say that. I said:

Looking around a corner: if a model is partially obscured by the corner of a building, but is not touching that building, it is obscured. If it is touching the building it is in cover.

 

[Mr Evil]

ok greg

you have the amera terrain as well

the triangle shape from above has walls on 2 sides of the triange, the 3rd edge is clear od wall and a base of terrain, looking into the building from that side with no wall in the way is that clear/ obscured / or cover ?

we treat it as free movment in the buulding so its not technicaly rough ground