BF:E cmopared to WH40k

[Galactic Fatt Patt]

Okay, thought I would start a thread to talk about playas from WH40k that BF:E will interest. I will start by saying that I have never played 40k. I know that the writer of ther rules for BF:E was one of the developers for 40k. I am not a painter or hobbiest, I am a gamer, hence why this game apeals to me so much. I did WarMachine though, that was my first and probably last hobby style game. My LHS has lots of 40k playas and I hope that BF:E will interest them some. Some will like pre painted, some won't. Do you think that BF:E will be marketed similar to 40k? New factions being released in new rule books. Options to tweak units out and the sort.
So let the opinions start.

 

[livingancestor]

I don't think BFE will ever replace 40K for most of the 40K players. They may play BFE in addition to 40K, but they won't drop it. 40K attracts a different crowd. They tend toward two different groups. 1. The power gamer. The min-maxer. These folks are the reason I quit playing 40K some time ago. The second group are those that love the fluff. Those that immerse themselves in the universe and the storyline. There aren't many that are attracted to the game because "It's a damn fine ruleset".

BFE will make it on its own merits. Its good ruleset and hopefully, the player base.

 

[Steelwhip]

Its not 40K...that right there makes it a far superior game.... :wink:

 

[Galactic Fatt Patt]

word and word. I don't play cause of some of the arguments I witnessed. I game for fun, not competition. Yeah, I figure that some of the 40k folks will not like modern vs fantasy.

 

[Voracioustigger]

Ya, I don't think the evolution games could ever really replace 40k... I even play 40k every now and then still. There's just a history with 40k and a different player base (as living already pointed out very well).

The Evolution games are for the wargamer and really only for the wargamer. You can still be a hobbyist and play evolution games, but the game wasn't designed with the hobby as a top priority. As Matt said, the rules (while maybe slightly easier than the original SST) are complicated and they are meant to be. These games are meant for strategists, for people who want to feel that they've really achieved something when they win (and not just succeeded in making a tough army list). In SST, I remember someone asking why their list never wins... and then taking pretty much that exact same list and going 3-0 in a tournament.

40k is for people who like fluff or people who always like to win. Evo games are for those who just love to play.

 

[Mr Evil]

40k is for people who like fluff or people who always like to win. Evo games are for those who just love to play.

exactly

ive had more laughts already playing bf-evo than all the years i played 40k.

bf evo you get stale mates where some one need brass balls to poke their head out and try tip the ballance, its such a game of skill, but a little luck can help.

game last night men on top of the roof shot 3 ak's and arpg at 3 infantry men directly below them, rpg missed but the rifles all scored a kill shot with a 6 , pete crawled in a corner as we laighted at how the shots from above ploughed through the brit helmets splating 3 brains about their position.

good times good times.

 

[roughneck GIR]

Sad day for some british chaps...

I left 40k(other than collecting nids) for starship troopers, the rules beat 40k really easily, and as far as I know the BFE rules are very similiar to sst's so I vote BFE all the way

 

[Elvis in Combat]

I don't see them as the same game worth comparing.

Three words about Battlefront:Evo rules:

"No arguement phase" :lol:

Seriously, I need to be careful here, but 40K is more a modeller/RPG based game converted to a wargame vs. BF:Evo which is a near future wargame built expressly for that purpose.

I don't see a wholesale movement from 40K to BF:Evo, in fact there is room for both. Although I'm happy to give my $$$s towards Mongoose product because the game is FUN and I want MORE. It could be a newness issue with enjoying BF:EVO but I've played enough games to know what I like in a game.

I recently tried playing 40K after a year hiatus playing 5 years up to then with my best friend and frankly I had forgotten how odd that game was. I had to play SST quickly afterwards to "clear the palatte". There are a lot of people who prefer 40K and/or a game like Warmachine, and honestly, that's great and I'm glad. I don't like the way those games play (although some of the miniatures are NICE) so I get my fix with Mongoose Publishing games. Something for everyone. This is the platinum age of wargaming.

I hope BF:Evo appeals to a wider audience (note I wrote "wider" not "Different") than 40K does, to be honest about it. SST:Evo I hope for the same as well.

 

[Locutus9956]

I love the 40k fluff and the miniatures but I just dont play the game any more as quite frankly the system is just rubish. Its all decided in army selection with tactics and play making very little impact on the actual game and as pointed out most people seem to spend more time arguing about rules and how broken this that or the other unit is than actually PLAYING. And lastly, for sci fi game with futurisitc uber guns all over the place 40k is horrifically Melee dominated. It's slightly better now than it was in the last version of the rules but it still just stupid that Mr Space Marine when fighting random genestealer cant just step back and shoot it and instead has to try to stab the giant superstong man eating acid dribbling moster.....

Now BF evo on the other hand does a great job of letting you react to enemy advances, simultes suppression nicely, firearms are apropriately lethal (run around in the open and you are going to DIE) and though close combat is as deadly as it should be, if you try to GET to melee with a not fully supressed enemy chances are your just going to get mown down as you run towards them.

Basically I dont think Evo is going to replace 40k for the sheer player base 40k has but Evo is in my oppinion a much MUCH MUCH better game and thats just on the basic rules Someone on here mentioned they were working on a version of '40k evo' and that for me would be staggeringly sweet. 40k's universe and fluff and minis with rules that dont suck? Where do I sign up (though actually I think Evo's 'real world setting' is actually in many ways, COOLER.

 

[Lorcan Nagle]

I think it's been 15 years since I played 40K. That's kinda scary. I quit playing for much the same reasons other people here did - I got bored of the rules, which seemed increasingly simplistic (but not streamlined). While SST (and now Evo) have simple, light rules, they're designed not to get in the way of playing the game rather than to appeal to a younger audience.