Recent content by Hans Rancke

All that is supposed to be located between the decks. A deck takes up 3.5m in height, but only about 2/3 is open space (There's a diagram in Traders and Gunboats that shows the exact proportions, but I can't find my copy ATM). Access is presumably through strategically placed floor and ceiling...

That is indeed a problem. We can say for sure that it must be less than Cr100,000 and less than 1 dT. My own suggestion, based purely on what would make for some nice, convenient figures, would be Cr50,000 and ½ dT per person. Though the ½ dT might be too much, seeing as there is no separate...

But if they take up the same tonnage, why not use staterooms (with double occupancy)? Are barracks significantly cheaper? EDIT: Yes, I see from a prior post that they are cheaper, costing only Cr100,000 instead of Cr500,000. That must include the cost of life support for one person. Which...

2 dT per person doesn't sound like barracks to me, it sounds like double occupancy staterooms. That is to say, perfectly standard accomodations. Hans

Or, it costs an average of Cr2000 per month for each stateroom on the assumption that each stateeroom is fully occupied by one person. This average could (for example) be C1500 per person per month in food and sundries plus a standard fee of Cr1500 per stateroom every three months for refreshing...

How do you figure that? Um... why would they have to do that? Just say that the life support line tells of the cost for when the ship has one warm body per stateroom aboard. GMs can use that as the default figure or they can go into more detail if they (and theor players) are interested. But...

That sounds much more reasonable. EDIT: Actually, thinking it over, it doesn't. Oh, it's reasonable enough for expedition food -- food that has to keep for months and years. It seems to fit with the CT cost of preserved foods (Cr20 per day, weighs 500g) with Cr5 per day left over for sundries...

Small craft do not need staterooms, but you can't stay out in a small craft for longer than... 24 hours I think it is. Something like that. Spaceboats that you can fly around in for days do require staterooms. Hans

No doubt it is possible to come up with some parts of life support that has to be paid in any case. Your example of keeping down bacterial growth in the water supply is a good one. But life support also includes the consumption of food and sundries, a consumption that does not take place when no...

I think a good try at making the rule work has been made. It failed. I already told you. Life support for spaceboats is the same as life support for starships. Hence no explanation that invokes any form of jumpspace wear and tear will work. We would probably be discussing how you could...

So do I. I don't think either explanation work. I doubt any explanation will work (though I'd be delighted to be proven wrong). That's why I advocate changing the rule. Just as my approach to canon is always, if it works, don't change it; if it doesn't work, do change it. Well, almost always...

Well-known fact of space travel: Life support in real space cost exactly the same as life support in jumpspace. Hans

Yes, and that is covered by power consumption. The amount of consumables that are consumed, however, is less when there are less people to consume them. So basing the cost of consumables consumed on the number of staterooms Does. Not. Make. Sense. Hans

And we're back to the unanswered question of just what you're paying for. What is it you're paying for that is proportional to the number of staterooms rather than the number of living people aboard or the size of the ship? Remember, life support for a freighter and a passenger liner of exactly...

Except the rules say it costs Cr2000 everywhere, in AND out of the Imperium. Hans