Does armor have less protection against lasers?

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Does armor have less protection against lasers?

Postby Kravell » Thu May 09, 2019 3:02 pm

Does regular armor have less protection versus lasers? I can't find what effect lasers have when used against normal armor.
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Re: Does armor have less protection against lasers?

Postby AnotherDilbert » Thu May 09, 2019 3:21 pm

No difference, unless stated otherwise. E.g. Reflec has AV 10 vs. Lasers only.
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Re: Does armor have less protection against lasers?

Postby Kravell » Thu May 09, 2019 7:18 pm

Thanks. That is weird. Why have special laser armor at all if regular armor works? Just layer it I suppose?
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Re: Does armor have less protection against lasers?

Postby Moppy » Thu May 09, 2019 8:52 pm

Anti-laser armor works better against lasers. Reflec's quite lightweight as well.

They've got so many lasers that one has to assume that their regular armor is designed with lasers in mind.

One also has to wonder if lasers actually are better at penetrating armor or whether that's just a sci-fi trope?

So far the industrial lasers we have, which are far larger than can be carried on a vehicle, don't punch through steel any quicker than a tank gun. I couldn't tell you whether's that due to current laser technology, or something about lasers themselves.
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Re: Does armor have less protection against lasers?

Postby NOLATrav » Thu May 09, 2019 8:52 pm

Don't have books to hand but yes, I believe Reflec is the only armor that stacks with, for example, Cloth. There may be others in the CSC I'm not aware of.
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Re: Does armor have less protection against lasers?

Postby Condottiere » Thu May 09, 2019 11:07 pm

Reflec wouid be indicative of light dispersing on contact, though I think it's been retconned to disperse heat through the fabric, which would deal better with ecks ray variants, assuming those are still canon.

Ablat is clearly absorption and evaporation.
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Re: Does armor have less protection against lasers?

Postby Garran » Thu May 09, 2019 11:33 pm

There are various anti-energy armors in the CSC. Their advantage in each case is that they're relatively cheap compared to general-purpose armors. Their disadvantage is that they're not much good against non-energy attacks (or energy attacks of the wrong type).
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Re: Does armor have less protection against lasers?

Postby Condottiere » Sat May 11, 2019 4:05 am

Laser sniping has to be a legitimate concern.
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Re: Does armor have less protection against lasers?

Postby Moppy » Sat May 11, 2019 9:53 am

Condottiere wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 4:05 am
Laser sniping has to be a legitimate concern.
True. This is how some current systems are used.

They aren't implemented this way in Mongoose Traveller however. There's no special "ignore the armored parts" rule for aiming with a laser byeond the regular rules that apply to all weapons
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Re: Does armor have less protection against lasers?

Postby Condottiere » Sun May 12, 2019 7:23 am

Despite it's fantasy element, ShadowRun tends to think these things through.

As a civilian, in an urban area, walking around with reflect armour would be considered suspicious; I'd incorporate it in my greatcoat.

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