Ancients - Wild Speculations and Questions

[Nathan Brazil]

OK then. Read Secrets of the Ancients. In 18 glorious pages, the extent of the original Droyne Empire is revealed. So assuming that its not just all fantasy dream sequence.

That would mean barring development of Jump (like the Viliani, Zhodani and Geonee ) for independent travel:
Each and every human "homeworld" except for Terra was essentially an Ancient's site or part of the Droyne Empire. Modern Droyne and Chirper worlds were likely part of the Empire. The Vargr homeworld was an Ancient's site or part of the Empire.
The Sons were created to oversee the empire but ended up going off experimenting.

So question 1: Sounds like the empire was more than 400 worlds (there were 400 Sons) spanning from Zhdant to the Trojan Reach, to Terra, to Sylea and parts Trailing. Where are all the Droyne bones? Artifacts and quite literally the bones of all the Droyne dying on all those worlds?

Question 2: The League of New Thought is able to create a "Grandfather" like character in scenario 3. Did the Droyne themselves created Grandfather milennia before the War as they claim?

Question 3: Droyne coyns and casting. How did the Droyne caste during the good old days?

[rust]

Grandfather is not at all amused when such questions
are asked ...

[Easterner]

Bones
Destroyed centuries ago. Ancients tended to toss disintigrators and asteroids around liberally. That removed lots of records. In Vilani/Zho/Luriani/Geonee times they found themselves on world with 2,4,6,8 legged creatures and odd fossil records. So ancient bones long ago tossed away. Med knowledge was limited till Terran days arrived. The germ laden Earthers were eons ahead of the competition in biologic knowledge. Many worlds were and are low pop so not fully explored. Or Ancient site gone under a sea. Many Ancient sites are known and more get found. Each with radically different tech making each seem it belongs to different race. But to the biologically clueless the bones are unlikely to be seen as anything special when discovered. Not impossible that on sites that had bodies GF had them disposed of as he counted the dead....remember he kept close track of those he eliminated.

Coyns
Info is that GF invented coynes and casting when he found the Droyne had lost the 'old way' of doing it. Old way yet to be described.

[andreav]

My favourite 'alternative ancient' theory is found here http://jtas.sjgames.com/login/article.cgi?328

Basically it involves timetravelling super intelligence, ice age super science Terran civilisations and is way cool (JTAS online sub is required to read it though )

[Nathan Brazil]

Easterner, thanks for reminding me about the medical technology. The Vilani Empire was around 1940s-1950s as far as medtech went. Even if they had developed species classification, they themselves would have not fit into catorgorization, nor would Droyne bones/fossils.

[dragoner]

Don't the Zhodani know the ancients are the Droyne?

[locarno24]

Not all of those worlds are necessarily Droyne, though - Cordillon is principally a human world with a single Droyne City. The actual population of the empire need not be that much to cover hundreds of worlds when everywhere is directly connected to everywhere else, and anyone can manufacture anything in situ without an industrial base.

As to creating Super-Droyne, who knows. If Yaskoydray's version of events is correct, maybe, but SEVEN's version disagrees on pretty much every point.

[Nuclear Fridge Magnet]

Easterner, thanks for reminding me about the medical technology. The Vilani Empire was around 1940s-1950s as far as medtech went. Even if they had developed species classification, they themselves would have not fit into catorgorization, nor would Droyne bones/fossils.

The Vilani couldn't even digest the native fauna and flora of their "home" world without a lot of preparation... I suppose that when the Interstellar Wars kicked off, the plucky Terrans brought all kinds of biologic problems with them. Illnesses and bacteria that the Vilani simply couldn't handle.