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2 editions of MGT

Postby wynteriii » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:41 am

I heard something about 2 editons of the MGT HC core rules. The first has a bunch of errors apparently. How can I confirm that I'll get a second edition book online and not on the Mongoose website?
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby GamerDude » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:23 pm

There is no "Second Edition", the books that are second edition say so on the cover. What you want is the second Printing which has some very nice art, it matches the artwork in the LBB Core Rule Book.

In the first printing the art in the Careers section was downright horrible.

I just checked my book (which I purchased direct from Mongoose), it is what you want but no indication of what printing it is (outside of the artwork). I think they are out of the first printing.

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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby ShawnDriscoll » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:10 am

The newer printing removes some of the text to make room for the newer art.
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby GamerDude » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:16 am

ShawnDriscoll wrote:The newer printing removes some of the text to make room for the newer art.
Hadn't noticed that... talk about missing my 'Perception' check.

Wait! MGT doesn't *have* a 'Perception' check!

*face palm* :mrgreen:
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby ShawnDriscoll » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:28 am

Some of the missing text was fluff. But I prefer fluff. :) And I eventually got used to the bad art in the 1st printing. I like it a lot more than the art used in the Zhodani book.
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby allanimal » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:14 am

How do I know if I have bad art or good art?
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby Tay » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:52 am

I believe the 2nd printing has the revised character sheet which has the Traveller Logo at the bottom right.
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby nDervish » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:19 am

GamerDude wrote:
ShawnDriscoll wrote:The newer printing removes some of the text to make room for the newer art.
Hadn't noticed that... talk about missing my 'Perception' check.

Wait! MGT doesn't *have* a 'Perception' check!

*face palm* :mrgreen:
That would normally be Recon/Int, but, since we're talking about looking for specific information (differences between versions), I think I might go with Investigate/Int in this case. :D
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby GamerDude » Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:17 pm

nDervish wrote:That would normally be Recon/Int, but, since we're talking about looking for specific information (differences between versions), I think I might go with Investigate/Int in this case. :D
For general discussion - I considered Recon, but that is a bit more tactical (looking at a location/structure for tactical weakness and such) and not every career has a chance to train in it. I was looking for the generic "Spot/Listen" check, not being tactically focused but more "I've learn to be more attentive to my more immediate surrooundings"

So I just give everyone a "Recon - 0" in their skills and it's now a skill check like any other "Recon/Int (Or Wis)". Just a personal thing.
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby ShawnDriscoll » Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:12 pm

allanimal wrote:How do I know if I have bad art or good art?
Ha ha. We're going to need an art committee for this.
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby hdan » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:11 pm

ShawnDriscoll wrote:
allanimal wrote:How do I know if I have bad art or good art?
Ha ha. We're going to need an art committee for this.
I suppose you could turn to page 30 (The Scholar career) and see if there's a woman dressed inappropriately for a classroom environment in the lower right hand corner. ("These are the clothes... of a younger woman, wouldn't you say?")
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby ShawnDriscoll » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:18 pm

hdan wrote:I suppose you could turn to page 30 (The Scholar career) and see if there's a woman dressed inappropriately for a classroom environment in the lower right hand corner. ("These are the clothes... of a younger woman, wouldn't you say?")
My edition has no art on page 30. But on page 31, there is a cyberpunk goth-looking chick. The VR glasses she is wearing makes her look like a scholar.
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby GamerDude » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:53 am

ShawnDriscoll wrote:
hdan wrote:I suppose you could turn to page 30 (The Scholar career) and see if there's a woman dressed inappropriately for a classroom environment in the lower right hand corner. ("These are the clothes... of a younger woman, wouldn't you say?")
My edition has no art on page 30. But on page 31, there is a cyberpunk goth-looking chick. The VR glasses she is wearing makes her look like a scholar.
First *PRINTING* that is....

There is no *second edition*. Matt has started conversations about doing a second edition but there isn't one.

TTBOMK The only "second edition" in the Traveller line is Supplement 1:760 Patrons
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby ShawnDriscoll » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:51 am

Oops. I meant to say my rough draft.
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby allanimal » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:10 am

hdan wrote:
ShawnDriscoll wrote:
allanimal wrote:How do I know if I have bad art or good art?
Ha ha. We're going to need an art committee for this.
I suppose you could turn to page 30 (The Scholar career) and see if there's a woman dressed inappropriately for a classroom environment in the lower right hand corner. ("These are the clothes... of a younger woman, wouldn't you say?")
Ok, I have in my book what you describe. Is that what people call the good art or the bad art?
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby nDervish » Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:24 am

GamerDude wrote:TTBOMK The only "second edition" in the Traveller line is Supplement 1:760 Patrons
That's the only one that calls itself a second edition, at least. But there's also the combination of Supplement 5: Civilian Vehicles and Supplement 6: Military Vehicles into Supplement 5-6: Vehicle Handbook with a complete overhaul of the vehicle creation system. Personally, I'd call that a "second edition", even if those words aren't on the cover.
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby ShawnDriscoll » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:45 pm

allanimal wrote:Ok, I have in my book what you describe. Is that what people call the good art or the bad art?
Yes. Your book has what people call the good art. The 2nd printing of the Core Rulebook (and only copy of the PDF?).

Anyway, you would know if you saw the original art. :)
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Re: 2 editions of MGT

Postby GamerDude » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:12 am

nDervish wrote:That's the only one that calls itself a second edition, at least. But there's also the combination of Supplement 5: Civilian Vehicles and Supplement 6: Military Vehicles into Supplement 5-6: Vehicle Handbook
I think it didn't get labeled "second edition" because of the two books being combined into one, ISBN barcoding and such.

Don't quote me on it though
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