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The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:33 pm
by msprange
We have several exciting projects in the works for Traveller at the moment - more news on them soon. First up though is The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

We are looking for errors and inconsistencies, great and small, across the entire Traveller range. Traveller-supremo, Don McKinney, has (fatefully?) stepped up to the challenge and has already started compiling a comprehensive list, but would like your input so we can be sure we catch everything.

If you have noticed anything a little wonky in any current Traveller book, please drop him a line at travellererrata@gmail.com.

We will be using this information to prepare comprehensive (and free!) correction PDFs, to manage reprints (eventually, these take more time) and to tie up loose ends with any of the (at the moment purely theoretical) second edition supplements.

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:48 pm
by AndrewW
Does this mean I should send the various bits and pieces (read pages worth) in again┬┐

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:50 pm
by msprange
Or send Don links!

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:52 pm
by donm61873
AndrewW wrote:Does this mean I should send the various bits and pieces (read pages worth) in again┬┐
Please? I don't want to take the chance that anything was misplaced or lost. Links work as well!

Thanks!

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:54 pm
by AndrewW
msprange wrote:Or send Don links!
Nah, that would mean sticking them on my webserver or something... Can just send them along again (they be in text format, luckily I've kept them). Though can save a number of pages since I'll exclude the original Book 2: High Guard ones, and just send the LBB2: High Guard for that.

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:58 pm
by donm61873
AndrewW wrote:
msprange wrote:Or send Don links!
Nah, that would mean sticking them on my webserver or something... Can just send them along again (they be in text format, luckily I've kept them). Though can save a number of pages since I'll exclude the original Book 2: High Guard ones, and just send the LBB2: High Guard for that.
Send everything to travellererrata@gmail.com and I'll review the material.

And Thanks!

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:07 pm
by AndrewW
donm61873 wrote:
AndrewW wrote:
msprange wrote:Or send Don links!
Nah, that would mean sticking them on my webserver or something... Can just send them along again (they be in text format, luckily I've kept them). Though can save a number of pages since I'll exclude the original Book 2: High Guard ones, and just send the LBB2: High Guard for that.
Send everything to travellererrata@gmail.com and I'll review the material.
Be careful what you wish for...

But on the way.

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:49 pm
by GamingGlen
I would like the show my appreciation for this effort, and kudos to Mr. McKinney for taking on the task.

<many clapping emoticons here> :D


- a long time fan of Traveller (from the beginning):

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:37 pm
by Stainless
My hat's off to Mongoose and Don for this. Don certainly has the track record for this type of thing considering his curation of the Megatraveller errata. Compulsive-obsessive streak I wonder, or just a masochist :D

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:31 pm
by AndrewW
Stainless wrote:My hat's off to Mongoose and Don for this. Don certainly has the track record for this type of thing considering his curation of the Megatraveller errata. Compulsive-obsessive streak I wonder, or just a masochist :D
He might be regretting it by now... He might go missing for awhile as he digs his way out.

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:27 pm
by rust
AndrewW wrote: He might be regretting it by now... He might go missing for awhile as he digs his way out.
How do we know which problems you already pointed out, so
we do not repeat the same problems over and over again ?

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:46 pm
by AndrewW
rust wrote:
AndrewW wrote: He might be regretting it by now... He might go missing for awhile as he digs his way out.
How do we know which problems you already pointed out, so
we do not repeat the same problems over and over again ?
Well, the largest portion where from High Guard. Though there are bits and pieces from elsewhere included as well. Probably better though for someone to send stuff in that has already been mentioned rather then have something missed.

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:23 pm
by GamerDude
rust wrote:How do we know which problems you already pointed out, so
we do not repeat the same problems over and over again ?
Who cares and doesn't matter. Better he get an error reported a dozen times, than it never get reported because everyone thought the other person reported it.

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:31 pm
by rust
GamerDude wrote:Who cares ...
Don, perhaps, because he is the poor guy who has to waste his
time on reading the same stuff again and again ?

In my view an errata thread with the problems already sent to
him would help to avoid too many duplicates and would make
the task a little easier for all involved.

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:49 am
by donm61873
rust wrote:
GamerDude wrote:Who cares ...
Don, perhaps, because he is the poor guy who has to waste his
time on reading the same stuff again and again ?

In my view an errata thread with the problems already sent to
him would help to avoid too many duplicates and would make
the task a little easier for all involved.
Matthew and I considered several options, and agreed on going offlist to e-mail. I don't mind seeing the same issue repeatedly, it stresses the need. HOWEVER, I will ask that people please reference page numbers and books in their e-mails.

Sending me "the pulse laser is broken" is not helpful. Sending me that message, and then noting the page numbers in the Traveller Core Rulebook and High Guard which are impacted are very helpful. Also, don't send me links to discussions, as it's sometimes difficult to know what issue is being discussed, and especially difficult to figure out page references.

Thanks!

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:40 am
by AndrewW
donm61873 wrote:Matthew and I considered several options, and agreed on going offlist to e-mail. I don't mind seeing the same issue repeatedly, it stresses the need. HOWEVER, I will ask that people please reference page numbers and books in their e-mails.
Till he gets sick of hearing from me anyways...

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:01 am
by GamerDude
donm61873 wrote:Matthew and I considered several options, and agreed on going offlist to e-mail. I don't mind seeing the same issue repeatedly, it stresses the need.
The email route is a smart move, very - easy to organize however you want (categories etc).

While in the USAF I've had at times duties similar to what Don has undertaken - dealing with convoluted regulations and such - needing to compile input from many bases to fix problems with those regulations.

HOWEVER, I will ask that people please reference page numbers and books in their e-mails.
YES! It's like giving feedback on a game session and only saying "it sucks" without saying "how" it sucked.

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:52 pm
by Chernobyl
sent in my questions and identified misprints.

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:09 pm
by IanBruntlett
The CRB's section, "Character Creation" uses synonyms - in paticular see page 9 for the "Career Summary Table". The headings can be confusing...

"Qualification" while used for most careers is replaced with "Enlistment" for military etc types.

"Prom." (Promotion) while used for most careers is replaced with Advancement for military etc types. Add in the military-specific "Commission" and I'm totally lost.

HTH!

Re: The Great Traveller Clean-Up!

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:21 pm
by Rusty_Unycorn
Every book that has had deckplans in it never gave us the mapping conventions (dTon size in squares, overhead space taken up by various systems and conduits, various other crunchy bits...) IIRC.
You can get the main idea of my gripes: I really like crunchy bits in my deckplans and I want more spacecraft options, preferably in one single place.