Women of the Traveller Universe

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Postby Ishmael » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:49 am

those old women aren't that old....they've just experienced a temporal misjump.
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Postby Jame Rowe » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:52 pm

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That sirs, is most excellent pedantry. I guess those are Stirlings - no magazine, though, right ?.

And if I may play, I believe the heavy blasters used by the stormtroopers on tatooine are MG42's.



We all know about Han and Leah's guns, right ?
To further the pedantry, you mean "Han and Leia's guns".

:lol:

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Postby kafka » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:08 pm

While Star Wars is not Traveller and Lucas was clearly inspired by the pulps of the 1930s & 1940s...I cannot help but wonder does this not have a place in the Original Traveller Universe...
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Postby lastbesthope » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:16 pm

That so looks like a cross between Col Wilma Deering and Padme on Geonosis.

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Postby rust » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:17 pm

kafka wrote:I cannot help but wonder does this not have a place in the Original Traveller Universe...
Maybe somewhere in the OTU, but not in my setting - the combination,
especially with the boots with high heels, does not look plausible enough
for any kind of a female character's role there, except perhaps as a B-
movie actress. :D
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Postby EDG » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:00 pm

kafka wrote:I cannot help but wonder does this not have a place in the Original Traveller Universe...
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It's a ridiculously impractical outfit. It's "sexy for the sake of it", and certainly wouldn't be used as a uniform (except maybe in a bedroom...).

And before people start accusing me of being a prude, I'm not. Far from it, in fact. I just think this sort of thing simply isn't appropriate for Traveller (Macho Women With Guns, maybe... but not Traveller).

What next, Barb Wire? :roll:
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Postby AKAramis » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:19 pm

Ridiculously impractical? no.

A lot of youth are wearing spandex tops and trousers these days, and not just as workout wear.

The mismatch of only one sleeve? that's purely a fashion statement. But the rest of the outfit is as practical as most of the outfits worn by 13-19yo girls in Anchorage high schools.
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Postby rust » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:25 pm

AKAramis wrote:But the rest of the outfit is as practical as most of the outfits worn by 13-19yo girls in Anchorage high schools.
This may well be true, but I would find it quite difficult to integrate an ad-
venture for armed high school fashion girls into my campaign ... :?

Seriously, "practical" is hardly a word high school girls would think about
when choosing their dress, and a high school is not exactly an environ-
ment where one would need "practical" clothes. :D
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Postby EDG » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:33 pm

AKAramis wrote:But the rest of the outfit is as practical as most of the outfits worn by 13-19yo girls in Anchorage high schools.
In case you didn't notice, the woman in the picture ain't a schoolgirl.
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Postby AKAramis » Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:49 pm

EDG wrote:
AKAramis wrote:But the rest of the outfit is as practical as most of the outfits worn by 13-19yo girls in Anchorage high schools.
In case you didn't notice, the woman in the picture ain't a schoolgirl.
Many of the gals wearing similar around here aren't, either... but they are trying to look like one!
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Postby Gruffty the Hiver » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:29 am

AKAramis wrote:
EDG wrote:
AKAramis wrote:But the rest of the outfit is as practical as most of the outfits worn by 13-19yo girls in Anchorage high schools.
In case you didn't notice, the woman in the picture ain't a schoolgirl.
Many of the gals wearing similar around here aren't, either... but they are trying to look like one!
...mutton dressed as lamb, eh? ;)
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Postby Dave Chase » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:41 am

Hmm, Obviously you all are not SW fans.

That outfit pictured is what it looked like after the fight.
It had long sleeves on both sides and a middle before the fight. Never figured out how the metal upper arm piece stayed when the sleeve was ripped off.

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Postby rust » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:46 am

Dave Chase wrote:Hmm, Obviously you all are not SW fans.
SW = Star Wars ? :?

Then it is probably standard stormtrooper armor underwear ... :shock:
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Postby EDG » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:05 am

Colin posted this in his Traveller art thread:

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This is much more like it, IMO. A nice practical outfit on a decent looking lady.
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Postby rust » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:15 am

Yep, this lady would be most welcome to my setting, especially because
apart from wearing a plausible outfit and looking good, she also gives the
impression that looking good is not her one and only talent. :D
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Postby Jeff Hopper » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:50 am

kafka wrote:While Star Wars is not Traveller and Lucas was clearly inspired by the pulps of the 1930s & 1940s...I cannot help but wonder does this not have a place in the Original Traveller Universe...
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The outfit doesn't look any more ridiculous than some clubwear I've seen.

The actress, however, would make a great template for a boss NPC come to think of it. Hmmm....
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Postby Vile » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:20 am

I think the main difference between functional and fashionable clothing in my SF is that the future allows more clothing to be fashionable. You can have fashionable (and sexy, if that's fashionable on that world in that season) vacc suits and coveralls. They will, by necessity, 'cover all', but beyond that anything goes. I see people in every conceivable level of everyday wear, every day, and it ranges from conservative to risque. If anything, I only imagine that range expanding in the future. Depending on the size of your universe, clothing should be outrageous on occasion to remind players that they are not in the here and now. I try hard not to impose my personal views on the game worlds I create, because that would make them less than whole. I think, as referees, it is incumbent on us to present a fully-rounded future universe to our players, and from the clothing aspect that goes from tanktops to burqas and beyond.

Just remember, fashion may be stylish and/or practical, but the relationship is purely coincidental ... ;)
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Postby captainjack23 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:24 am

Jeff Hopper wrote:
kafka wrote:While Star Wars is not Traveller and Lucas was clearly inspired by the pulps of the 1930s & 1940s...I cannot help but wonder does this not have a place in the Original Traveller Universe...
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The outfit doesn't look any more ridiculous than some clubwear I've seen.

The actress, however, would make a great template for a boss NPC come to think of it. Hmmm....
I'm thinking y'all have forgotten both the Noble and the entertainer class.

Honestly, she's dressed weird for today, but at least shes....anatomically normal. And not overly exposed. Still, I would have a hard time with this being more than a very setting specific or one off.
there really are people with more fashion sense than sense in the world....this is the senator's daughter who you knew in college who you have to take along on an extraction....and if you are trying to bodyguard a high fashion noble, you dress accordingly.

And hot planets exist, too.

And really, how much less practical is this than the arms ripped off short tee and tight cammo pants in most gunfiction these days ? Especially in jungle settings ?
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Postby captainjack23 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:45 am

rust wrote:Yep, this lady would be most welcome to my setting, especially because
apart from wearing a plausible outfit and looking good, she also gives the
impression that looking good is not her one and only talent. :D
well, yes, but....she also looks like she's wearing a combat rig -which isn't appropriate for most social settings - even in most off base settings - and traveller, I always thought, was more than just a skirmish game. So simply designing professional looking combat suits seems to be missing some of the flavor. Even casual fashion, nowadays, worldwide -can be pretty astonishing in its variety. So, as long as they look human, and not in basic cheescake/skin poses (defined as anatomically impossible or agonizing to hold) it's not that big a deal for me if people, even women people (;)) depicted in traveller dress sexily or casually, or according to bizarre fashion dictated by popular, subgroup or professional culture (remember the eighties ? *SHUDDER*).
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Postby EDG » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:50 am

I'm not suggesting that women in skimpy/sexy clothing won't exist in Traveller... I just question the need to put artwork of them in books.

If that sort of thing is there to sell more copies of the RPG then just say so. No amount of in-setting justification is going to justify that though - it'd be like saying "Traveller is a game of far future adventure, but we're just going to show you all the party people who dress to look hot!".

Like I said, if it's appropriate then fair enough. But I don't want to see pictures of big-boobed marines with perfect makeup and exposed midriffs in a combat situation.
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