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Pocket Player's Guide

Postby Imajica » Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:51 pm

So... We're getting the Traveller core rules in a book that's almost as big as the original black books. Are there any plans to re-issue all of the other supplements - Merc, High Guard, etc. in the pocket form?
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Postby TrippyHippy » Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:53 am

There are no plans, as of yet (it's already been asked). If the sales of the pocket book are extrordinarily good, however, who knows.

Maybe they could do a slipcase limited edition too?
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Postby sjmiller » Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:22 pm

I know that I will be buying the pocket edition. I actually prefer my Traveller books to be a smaller size. You should see my original Traveller box that I got for Christmas of 1979. It is crammed full of books. For me, Traveller books should be digest sized.
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Postby Infojunky » Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:58 pm

sjmiller wrote:I know that I will be buying the pocket edition. I actually prefer my Traveller books to be a smaller size. You should see my original Traveller box that I got for Christmas of 1979. It is crammed full of books. For me, Traveller books should be digest sized.
I concur...

The inflation in size of gaming books has lead to bloated books that are hard to digest and transport.
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Postby TrippyHippy » Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:13 pm

I'd prefer it that way too.....but I think that Mongoose are entitled to test the water first with the pocket book, to establish that there is a good market for such a format.

And actually, the idea of having a slipcase for multiple LBBs is a pretty cool idea, I think.
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Postby Yogah of Yag » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:08 am

If the reviews for the pocket version are favourable, I too will probably break down and get a copy, thus supporting the Evil Goose Empire (TM). :D But we'll see.....

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Postby IanBruntlett » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:53 am

I quite like the size of the Mongoose Traveller books. But then I'm used to carrying a rucksack of books to a game - on a bus :o I'm thinking of running a few games from my house in future.
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Postby Dave Chase » Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:36 pm

I like both having a full size, every detail book with pictures and graphs.

But I also like having a pocket guide. I have 2 of Mongoose's pocket guides and it is handy to have something small to carry and use versus the large books.

I also use them when I was travelling since, I knew most of the fluff and just needed the rules to create my scenarios.

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Postby AKAramis » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:00 am

Infojunky wrote:
sjmiller wrote:I know that I will be buying the pocket edition. I actually prefer my Traveller books to be a smaller size. You should see my original Traveller box that I got for Christmas of 1979. It is crammed full of books. For me, Traveller books should be digest sized.
I concur...

The inflation in size of gaming books has lead to bloated books that are hard to digest and transport.
You are not supposed to eat them, so digestion shouldn't be an issue.

Me, I prefer 5x8, but 6x9 works fine. 8x11 will be rendered to 5.5x8.5 when I print the PDF's anyway.
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Postby Rex » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:14 pm

There is something to be said for the "Iconic" look of the Classic Digest sized Traveller material.

Iconic sells. Plus, I liked the small books. They did less damage to my players when I had to haul off and smash someone in the mush for not RTFM.

I suppose now that I'm getting older, lugging around the old Gaming arsenal is getting to be a bit of a pain, so if we get a Vote, then I vote, Pocket Everything.

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Postby TrippyHippy » Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:31 pm

Pocket size also communicates 'pick-up-and-play' to gamers, which is something I think people ought to consider Traveller as being good at.
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Postby Ronin84 » Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:40 pm

NOT a fan of the Pocket size, I have had other smaller books crushed or deformed by binders/folders/notebooks while toting them around. Also while taking up less space they don't stack well with said items, making for an akward backpack or satchel.

I can appreciate having the smaller size next to my pc but that's about it.

Just my two cents...
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Postby TrippyHippy » Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:26 pm

Well, you can stick with the full size if you prefer it.

But for me, iconic format + convenient size for literally Travelling with = perfection.
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Postby Rex » Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:47 pm

Iconic and Different also sells, just look at the Starwars Saga Edition material. The more distinctive you are without being annoying, the more you attract your market. Traveller was always unique with the digest size, and lately, COST has been getting to be an even bigger factor.

Let's face it, most gamers are getting sick of paying 40 bucks for a book. I went with the Pocket Guide for the Runequest material and it's more used at the table then the big books are.

One of the things I learned Running Traveller last Gencon, was that the people really liked and missed the small books, and they were far happier with the pocket editions that Mongoose has produced for Other rules, then with their big books.

Combine that with old folks like me that basically DESPISE pdf's and cd-rom/dvd this or that options, and refuse to use them for many logical reasons (they suck) and I can pretty much say, factoring in price difference, that in any given format for the most part in today's economy, people are going to lean towards the pocket guide, and even more so for Traveller where that Smaller format has that pleasant nostalgia attached to it.

I'd be happy with a Pocket Edition, for the Entire Line.

More PEd's please.

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Postby Delerium » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:02 pm

Will it have all the mistakes, typos and inconsistencies in miniature too?


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Postby Gruffty the Hiver » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:43 pm

Delerium wrote:Will it have all the mistakes, typos and inconsistencies in miniature too?


:evil:
Yes.


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Postby Rex » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:48 pm

Delerium wrote:Will it have all the mistakes, typos and inconsistencies in miniature too?


:evil:
I'll second that of course. I really don't understand why the Gaming Industry as a WHOLE, has just turned into a gigantic festering turd when it comes to proof reading.

Really. Spell check is not that hard to use.

Look at the bright side though. The Pocket Edition will have smaller print, so therefore, the typos and such won't be leaping off the page at you like the big blown up Kindergarten printed versions.

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Postby Infojunky » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:55 pm

Rex wrote:
Delerium wrote:I'll second that of course. I really don't understand why the Gaming Industry as a WHOLE, has just turned into a gigantic festering turd when it comes to proof reading.
Naw it is pretty much back to where it always lived. Many games/companies historically have had horrible writing and editing. But that is the hazard of a hobby industry. We have just been spoiled by some deep pocket producers who upped the ante for a while.

Cleanly edited books at a reasonable price were some of the attraction of the CT line for me.

Now I could rant about the decline of the entire industry since the abbandonment of the digest sized book but I won't.

I'll just say that I have bought far fewer books in the last decade since the rise of colour hardback standard.
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Postby Rex » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:09 pm

Infojunky wrote:
Rex wrote:
Delerium wrote:I'll second that of course. I really don't understand why the Gaming Industry as a WHOLE, has just turned into a gigantic festering turd when it comes to proof reading.
Naw it is pretty much back to where it always lived. Many games/companies historically have had horrible writing and editing. But that is the hazard of a hobby industry. We have just been spoiled by some deep pocket producers who upped the ante for a while.

Cleanly edited books at a reasonable price were some of the attraction of the CT line for me.

Now I could rant about the decline of the entire industry since the abbandonment of the digest sized book but I won't.

I'll just say that I have bought far fewer books in the last decade since the rise of colour hardback standard.

Giant books, Glossy pages, Myriads of Colors rivaling a modern art review at a major museum. All eye catching fodder for the "shiny object" motivated Attention challenged folk out there.

I still prefer my Digest Books, Modules, and simple little iconic things like that combined with, oh, a modicum of proof reading and editing.

What can I say I'd still rather have a book full of perfect literature, then some giant glossy paged travesty of ink, that comes off on your finger tips.

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Postby FailedSpotCheck » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:47 pm

What it all boils down to is the solidity of the ruleset. If the product is all glitz and glamour, a glossy, technicolour, orgiastic riot of graphics but a badly conceived and ill-tested system, then all the window-dressing in the world is not going to save it.

I like a little sprinkling of graphics in my RPG books, and the LBB's were deficient, IMHO, when it came to the non-textual aspect of those releases, but the rules were elegant in their simplicity and have stood the test of time.

I like the portability of PDFs, but DESPISE the exorbitant prices of the digital format. In many cases the PDFs are nearly as expensive as the HC. :evil: :x If the HC is full-colour it would be very nice if the industry as a whole also provided B/W companion PDF's for us blokes who do not want to spend 35 pounds or 70-some odd dollars on printer ink cartridges.
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