Need clarification on Encumberence 'Physical Actions'

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Need clarification on Encumberence 'Physical Actions'

Postby deejaay » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:57 pm

Pg. 92 of MGT2 core book states that once encumbered, you suffer a Bane to 'all physical actions'.
While STR, DEX, END are your physical characteristic values, I have no issues with a Bane being applied to a straight up STR,DEX,END roll.
My question lies with combat actions that employ a physical characteristic, like attacking using the Gun Combat skill.

Does the encumbered Bane get applied to someone shooting with Gun Combat skill?

Options:
YES. It is all physical and any skill check using STR, DEX, END gets a bane.
NO. Physical actions only describe a straight up STR, DEX, END check. Skills using the STR, DEX, END attributes can be compensated in some way to avoid the Bane.

I need to know which of the above is the intended Core Rulebook meaning?
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Re: Need clarification on Encumberence 'Physical Actions'

Postby Erias » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:15 pm

I'd say it depends on why you are encumbered. Suppose you are carrying a very heavy backpack there is no reason why it should affect your ability to aim and shoot, but you won't probably be able to run at all (even worse than a bane: "you're doing your best, but you only manage to walk at a higher pace.") and for fatigue, it certainly deserves a bane and dodging should be made more difficult too.
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Re: Need clarification on Encumberence 'Physical Actions'

Postby AnotherDilbert » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:40 am

deejaay wrote: Pg. 92 of MGT2 core book states that once encumbered, you suffer a Bane to 'all physical actions'.
I would interpret physical as opposed to mental actions; anything you do in the real world, as opposed to in your head, would suffer the bane.

deejaay wrote: Options:
YES. It is all physical and any skill check using STR, DEX, END gets a bane.
Yes, I would say ranged combat tasks suffers the bane.

Note that it is not necessarily the same as all STR, DEX, and END tasks.

As a contrived example, let's say that a character uses EDU to use a specific technique to weave baskets: It's still a physical activity and gets the bane.
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Re: Need clarification on Encumberence 'Physical Actions'

Postby Condottiere » Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:18 pm

Encumbrance means something is getting in your way in performing an action, or an extended series of actions.

Like not spilling your martini as you dive for cover.
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Re: Need clarification on Encumberence 'Physical Actions'

Postby Ursus Maior » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:37 am

Condottiere wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:18 pm
Like not spilling your martini as you dive for cover.
An issue of supreme importance, I might add.
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Re: Need clarification on Encumberence 'Physical Actions'

Postby ShawnDriscoll » Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:31 pm

deejaay wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:57 pm
Pg. 92 of MGT2 core book states that once encumbered, you suffer a Bane to 'all physical actions'.
While STR, DEX, END are your physical characteristic values, I have no issues with a Bane being applied to a straight up STR,DEX,END roll.
My question lies with combat actions that employ a physical characteristic, like attacking using the Gun Combat skill.

Does the encumbered Bane get applied to someone shooting with Gun Combat skill?
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