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Re: Question about Stunners

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:38 am
by Old School
I like the idea of Ion weapons being heavy weapons requiring a vehicle mount or tripod rather than a rifle. Also the TL15 Ion gun as presented if far too inexpensive for a high tech weapon that can, and is apparently designed specifically to, defeat Battle Dress.

Re: Question about Stunners

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:49 pm
by Sigtrygg
paltrysum wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:11 pm


Ion weapons are presented in High Guard but are strictly turret or bay weapons in that tome. If you buy the upcoming Glorious Empire book, you will see the concept of ion missiles introduced. This is merely an exploration of miniaturizing the technology and making it available to smaller weapons. I think perhaps introducing it as a heavy weapon might make it more palatable than a rifle. Just a thought. My sense of it is that fans of the game like new guns and you can always house rule them out of your game if they don't make a good fit. :)
Ion weapons as presented in HG have no place in the OTU. That's not to say you couldn't have electromagnetic pulse missile warheads :)

Ions are charged particles. If you are firing a stream of charged particles the weapon is a particle accelerator - neutral particles for use in space (you accelerate them as charged particles and then neutralise the beam as it leaves the weapon) or charged particles for use in an atmosphere (basically a lightening gun, you could even fire a laser pilot beam to form the channel for the particles).

As to tachyon weapons... no, just no.

Back to the topic of an energy weapon stunner - I would frantically wave hands and invoke magnetic fields, since we know strong magnetic fields can indeed cause your brain to stop working properly. A directed short range magnetic effect, there you go.

Re: Question about Stunners

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:18 am
by Melbourne Accords
Thank you very much for all of these fantastic ideas!

Re: Question about Stunners

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:07 pm
by Condottiere
Wireless power transfer (WPT), wireless power transmission, wireless energy transmission (WET), or electromagnetic power transfer is the transmission of electrical energy without wires as a physical link. In a wireless power transmission system, a transmitter device, driven by electric power from a power source, generates a time-varying electromagnetic field, which transmits power across space to a receiver device, which extracts power from the field and supplies it to an electrical load. The technology of wireless power transmission can eliminate the use of the wires and batteries, thus increasing the mobility, convenience, and safety of an electronic device for all users.[2] Wireless power transfer is useful to power electrical devices where interconnecting wires are inconvenient, hazardous, or are not possible.

Wireless power techniques mainly fall into two categories, near field and far-field. In near field or non-radiative techniques, power is transferred over short distances by magnetic fields using inductive coupling between coils of wire, or by electric fields using capacitive coupling between metal electrodes.[3][4][5][6] Inductive coupling is the most widely used wireless technology; its applications include charging handheld devices like phones and electric toothbrushes, RFID tags, induction cooking, and wirelessly charging or continuous wireless power transfer in implantable medical devices like artificial cardiac pacemakers, or electric vehicles.[7]

In far-field or radiative techniques, also called power beaming, power is transferred by beams of electromagnetic radiation, like microwaves [8] or laser beams. These techniques can transport energy longer distances but must be aimed at the receiver. Proposed applications for this type are solar power satellites, and wireless powered drone aircraft.[9][10][11]

An important issue associated with all wireless power systems is limiting the exposure of people and other living things to potentially injurious electromagnetic fields.[12][13]



Probably not an issue when the intent is to short circuit the target.

You could simplify it by transmitting the power through WiFi from the battery in the gun to the fired dart, so range would depend on power transmitted and range of dart.

As regards extra heavy melee weapons, that's what powered battle dress is for.

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Re: Question about Stunners

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:07 pm
by Condottiere
Wireless power transfer (WPT), wireless power transmission, wireless energy transmission (WET), or electromagnetic power transfer is the transmission of electrical energy without wires as a physical link. In a wireless power transmission system, a transmitter device, driven by electric power from a power source, generates a time-varying electromagnetic field, which transmits power across space to a receiver device, which extracts power from the field and supplies it to an electrical load. The technology of wireless power transmission can eliminate the use of the wires and batteries, thus increasing the mobility, convenience, and safety of an electronic device for all users.[2] Wireless power transfer is useful to power electrical devices where interconnecting wires are inconvenient, hazardous, or are not possible.

Wireless power techniques mainly fall into two categories, near field and far-field. In near field or non-radiative techniques, power is transferred over short distances by magnetic fields using inductive coupling between coils of wire, or by electric fields using capacitive coupling between metal electrodes.[3][4][5][6] Inductive coupling is the most widely used wireless technology; its applications include charging handheld devices like phones and electric toothbrushes, RFID tags, induction cooking, and wirelessly charging or continuous wireless power transfer in implantable medical devices like artificial cardiac pacemakers, or electric vehicles.[7]

In far-field or radiative techniques, also called power beaming, power is transferred by beams of electromagnetic radiation, like microwaves [8] or laser beams. These techniques can transport energy longer distances but must be aimed at the receiver. Proposed applications for this type are solar power satellites, and wireless powered drone aircraft.[9][10][11]

An important issue associated with all wireless power systems is limiting the exposure of people and other living things to potentially injurious electromagnetic fields.[12][13]



Probably not an issue when the intent is to short circuit the target.

You could simplify it by transmitting the power through WiFi from the battery in the gun to the fired dart, so range would depend on power transmitted and range of dart.

As regards extra heavy melee weapons, that's what powered battle dress is for.

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Re: Question about Stunners

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:44 pm
by Erias
Just out of curiosity, how do you deal with stunners against creatures? They don’t have stats, just hit points. The question arose yesterday, I allowed one of my player to use its stunner against a fierce creature with 29 hps and a bad attitude. I said to myself: “no reason this shouldn’t work on animals” but how determining stats? A base would be one third for END, STR and DEX and then an adjustment: more END for tougher predator creature, less for herbivores. On the top of my hat I decided that the creature had a high END, 15 or so. How would you do it?

Re: Question about Stunners

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:39 am
by Linwood
That sounds like a good approach. You might consider a high effective END a Trait. You could also have reduced vulnerability/susceptibility to electrical damage as Traits.