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Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:34 pm
by Moppy
AnotherDilbert wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:56 pm
Moppy wrote: Because that would require the modules were built as ship hulls and it would cost a fortune.
An empty module cost MCr 2, the same as an entire Scout hull.

In MgT2 it would cost about MCr 1.8, the same as any other 30 Dt streamlined hull.
Swapping modules to load cargo would be expensive for that 1.8 MCr module overhead. I'd expect cargo to be loaded and unloaded normally into the same module.

The module should be be to reconfigure the craft quickly, rather than to facilitiate loading.

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:12 pm
by Condottiere
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I suspect they're using a docking clamp.

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:18 pm
by Linwood
You could build the modules as Fragile. Maybe discount the cost if they don’t need life support (or power).

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:56 pm
by AnotherDilbert
Condottiere wrote: I suspect they're using a docking clamp.
Doesn't work if you want to land:
HG, p43 wrote:A ship holding another ship in a docking clamp will become unstreamlined.

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:59 pm
by Moppy
That's an Eagle from Space 1999. The square bit in the middle is a module. IIRC they operated on the moon only, and would not worry about streamlining.

I could be wrong because this show is old.

This does raise the question of how they got to the moon in the first place.

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:06 pm
by crazy_cat
The Space 1999 Eagle. The classic Modular Cutter.

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:19 pm
by phavoc
Moppy wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:59 pm
That's an Eagle from Space 1999. The square bit in the middle is a module. IIRC they operated on the moon only, and would not worry about streamlining.

I could be wrong because this show is old.

This does raise the question of how they got to the moon in the first place.
The trusty Eagle crash-landed on many a planet during the series! And it left behind their module and flew w/o issue as well with the center spine only.

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:04 am
by Condottiere
From the Deep Space Exploration Handbook, it could be a twenty tonne base module, fitted as a detachable shipboard component, and anchored in place with piles driven into rock, when detached dirtside.

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:50 am
by Moppy
phavoc wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:19 pm
The trusty Eagle crash-landed on many a planet during the series!
Was it ever able to land normally? It doesn't look particularly aerodynamic.

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:55 am
by AndrewW
Moppy wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:50 am
phavoc wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:19 pm
The trusty Eagle crash-landed on many a planet during the series!
Was it ever able to land normally? It doesn't look particularly aerodynamic.
Yes it has been known to happen.

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:47 am
by Condottiere
I don't know about speed past orbit, but Eagles tend to look dead slow.

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:27 pm
by phavoc
Moppy wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:50 am
phavoc wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:19 pm
The trusty Eagle crash-landed on many a planet during the series!
Was it ever able to land normally? It doesn't look particularly aerodynamic.
Umm, I guess about half the plot points had them landing safely. 😝

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:07 am
by Condottiere
You'd think they'd run out of Eagles, and/or spare parts.

Re: Spaceship vs. Starship

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:03 am
by John Done
All starships were divided into different classes:
- Yachts are luxurious ships owned by wealth
- Starfighters were single or double maneuvering starships used to intercept and destroy various targets
- Bombers are slow, small craft designed to deliver pinpoint bomb attacks
- Scouts are small ships that checked a certain area before the main forces arrived there
- Transports are ships designed to transport people or goods
- Shuttles are vehicles carrying any personnel
- Cargo ships are light carriers
- Fire support warships are assault ships primarily used for atmospheric combat
- Patrol ships - starships located in certain systems that were devoid of hyperdrive and fought in the areas assigned to them
- Large ships are huge warships, the main unit in space battles
- Space stations are fixed structures located in orbit or deep space