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Re: Gazelle Class Close Escort

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:00 am
by AnotherDilbert
I don't believe the design system limits simple hatches or iris valves. I agree that air locks are desirable in this case, but not really necessary, as the original Gazelle and Subbie shows.

Re: Gazelle Class Close Escort

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:15 pm
by baithammer
The only items that are spelled out to combine are the forced linkage arm and the boarding tube.

Re: Gazelle Class Close Escort

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:03 pm
by AnotherDilbert
Core, p143 wrote: Docking
Two spacecraft may dock if they are close together and neither ship attempts to resist the docking manoeuvre. Many airlock designs across charted space are compatible; for incompatible airlocks, ships extend flexible plastic docking tubes that adapt to the target airlock.

Forced Linkage and Breaching Tubes are used to board, i.e. dock against someones will. No special equipment is needed for willing docking.

Note that the Annic Nova does not use airlocks, but simply mates an iris valve with the pinnaces held in docking clamps (HG, p145).

Re: Gazelle Class Close Escort

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:52 pm
by baithammer
Forced Linkage and Breaching Tubes are used to board, i.e. dock against someones will. No special equipment is needed for willing docking.
Under breaching tube is mentioned docking tubes which are required for ships without hangar or docking space.

As for the Annic Nova, that would be better used with the docking spaces as it would take a trivial amount of displacement from the cargo to implement and get the desired effect.

Re: Gazelle Class Close Escort

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:53 pm
by AnotherDilbert
baithammer wrote: Under breaching tube is mentioned docking tubes which are required for ships without hangar or docking space.
No, docking tubes are only necessary if the locks or hatches are incompatible, or the ship's shapes makes direct docking impractical.
AnotherDilbert wrote:
Core, p143 wrote: Docking
Two spacecraft may dock if they are close together and neither ship attempts to resist the docking manoeuvre. Many airlock designs across charted space are compatible; for incompatible airlocks, ships extend flexible plastic docking tubes that adapt to the target airlock.
If we specifically design a ship with docking clamps we can trivially make the hatch connection match.

baithammer wrote: As for the Annic Nova, that would be better used with the docking spaces as it would take a trivial amount of displacement from the cargo to implement and get the desired effect.
Since the ship relies on the docked pinnaces for thrust they probably have to be external, so Docking Spaces would be impractical.

The additional cost of (~MCr 25) would not be trivial.

Re: Gazelle Class Close Escort

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:14 am
by Condottiere
Pretty sure there was an airlock added to docking clamps in a subsequent semi official errata after publication.

Re: Gazelle Class Close Escort

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:24 pm
by AnotherDilbert
Condottiere wrote: Pretty sure there was an airlock added to docking clamps in a subsequent semi official errata after publication.
MgT1e had this to say in "High Guard errata":
The docking clamp allows access between the two vessels.
This has no obvious bearing on MgT2e.

Re: Gazelle Class Close Escort

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:57 am
by baithammer
Since the ship relies on the docked pinnaces for thrust they probably have to be external, so Docking Spaces would be impractical.
Or use breakaway hull.

Re: Gazelle Class Close Escort

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:00 am
by AnotherDilbert
baithammer wrote: Or use breakaway hull.
I agree that that would be a better fit for the Annic Nova, but it would require specific breakaway sections instead of the standard pinnaces.