[Drinax] Where is the Queen?

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[Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby Pyromancer » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:33 pm

Who is the mother of Harrick and Rao? Where is she? Is there a Queen hidden somewhere on the Floating Palace?
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby Baldo » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:52 pm

The Sindalian (and Drinaxian) rulers are clearly autocratic in nature, and an autocrat rules alone without a partner. Therefore, Oleb had consorts*, NOT queens, and if one of the PCs gets to marry princess Rao, he's just another consort, NOT the ruler of Drinax.

*Harrick is aged 54 and Rao is 28, I strongly suspect Oleb got multiple consorts during his *long* reign.
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby Pyromancer » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:43 pm

But where are the mothers? Being the mother of the heir is a powerful position, if not formal, then at least informal. And as far as I'm aware, they are never mentioned. Given the medical technology, I don't think they died.

Perhaps it is custom to exile them, to prevent them from becoming too powerful? Then they might resurface in the campaign. :twisted:
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby ShawnDriscoll » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:17 pm

Baldo wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:52 pm
The Sindalian (and Drinaxian) rulers are clearly autocratic in nature, and an autocrat rules alone without a partner. Therefore, Oleb had consorts*, NOT queens, and if one of the PCs gets to marry princess Rao, he's just another consort, NOT the ruler of Drinax.
From someone that knows 57th century cultures.
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby Baldo » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:54 pm

Pyromancer wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:43 pm
But where are the mothers? Being the mother of the heir is a powerful position, if not formal, then at least informal.
The quickest option is turning lady Hil (already an influential noble and a Rao supporter) into the mother of princess Rao. I keep thinking Harrick and Rao have different mothers (Pirates of Drinax says Scholar Voha, and not some other noble, is Harrick's *biggest* supporter, for example), and having the living mother of the princess opposed to the regal son of a former (and probably dead, in my opinion -high technology notwithstanding-) consort is very plausible.
ShawnDriscoll wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:17 pm
From someone that knows 57th century cultures.
Oh, you noticed? :lol: :P
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby Pyromancer » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:58 pm

I thought of Lady Hil, too. But now that you mention it: Scholar Voha could be Harricks mother! That adds another tragic touch to the story. A mother refusing to believe her son was dead, and fighting for 20 years to bring him back to life.
It would also explain the pressure on King Oleb a little bit more to make Rao his heir. The public might simply not believe Voha that the Prince is still alive, since being his mother clouds her judgement.

I think that's the way I will go.
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby Pyromancer » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:21 am

Upon further reflection: This campaign seriously lacks married couples, or couples at all. There are a few parent-child relations, but it's only ever a single parent mentioned.
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby PsiTraveller » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:05 am

You could throw in the Heinleinesque contract marriages that last for X amount of time. The Liaden clans universe also has fosterlings and contract marriages. Maybe the mother is simply a political ally for a contracted time and it is the offspring that are important.

For darker threads you can have clan wars and assassins sneaking about the underlinth of the Floating city. Vendettas as old secrets are exposed etc. Turn the hallways into a battlefield. :twisted:
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby Pyromancer » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:19 am

I think I'll go the boring route and just introduce a few husbands and wives, since the concept of marriage is clearly known on Drinax.
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby legozhodani » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:34 am

Maybe she's just fine, and it's just never mentioned or reported. One of those weird local customs that the mothers are never metioned for some reason. Could be custom, fear or religious or plain arrogance. Wouldn't be the first time whole swaths of society are written out of history for some reason.
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby Pyromancer » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:07 pm

There are a total of two couples in the campaign (according to my research):
1) There's a husband-and-wife team of free traders mentioned as background characters in "Treasure Ship".
2) Lady Telwax, the governor of Asim, has a wife and children, although no further details beyond their mere existence are given.

So, 100% of mentioned Drinaxi couples are same-sex, and reproduction doesn't seem to be a problem for them.
That might be the reason the King himself isn't married: On Drinax, only same-sex marriage is allowed, and since the King likes women (red-headed women!), he stayed a bachelor.

I'd really like the author's thoughts on that topic...
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby Baldo » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:27 pm

Pyromancer wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:07 pm
There are a total of two couples in the campaign (according to my research)
The same-sex marriage custom is also present in Treasure Ship, see page 68 (Cargo Chief Niven and his ex-husbands).
In addition, you can say The Game of Sun & Shadow is just Krond's way to marry Eridani. :lol:
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby Bulletsponge » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:28 pm

Pyromancer wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:58 pm
now that you mention it: Scholar Voha could be Harricks mother!
Except for the fact that Scholar Voha is a man. "Voha sees his role as protecting the knowledge of the ancient empire of Sindal"
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Re: [Drinax] Where is the Queen?

Postby Pyromancer » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:47 pm

Bulletsponge wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:28 pm
Pyromancer wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:58 pm
now that you mention it: Scholar Voha could be Harricks mother!
Except for the fact that Scholar Voha is a man. "Voha sees his role as protecting the knowledge of the ancient empire of Sindal"
Either, I make Scholar Voha Harrick's other parent (in the book, the only mentioned Drinaxi couple is same sex and has a child, so technology has solved the problem of reproduction), or I just change the fact, and Voha's a woman.

Both options are way better than to omit the other parent altogether.

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