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Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:19 am
by dmccoy1693
If you are looking for expanded career event tables, might I recommend the D66 Compendium 2 by Jon Brazer Enterprises (my company). We have expanded event tables for all of the careers in the core book plus so much more.

Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:23 am
by Linwood
I’ve been using that book for some time. An excellent supplement!

Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:48 am
by Linwood
ShawnDriscoll wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:34 am
Linwood wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:05 am
I’m actually more interested in some of the little side additions to character generation. An awards and honors system for example
What kind of awards and honors system? How would they be used in a game?
Something that could be readily integrated into the current generation system without a lot of extra dice rolling. The old decorations systems in Mercenary and High Guard were good examples - take a penalty on Survival for an MCUF or other award for valor, and gain a Purple Heart when you fail the Survival check (or on minimal Effect, maybe?). For other careers they could be tied to Advancement checks; take a penalty on chance to move up the corporate ladder in return for an award for innovative work. (Outside Silicon Valley that happens a lot....).

Decorations also had an impact on Advancement checks. I could see keeping that or maybe offering a choice of assignments or events. Possibly an extra Skill in some cases (the hero of Camp Desperation goes on a year-long war bond tour and gains Diplomacy 0).

Game effects - hmmm... One possibility is that they could help a character gain in Social Standing in some ways. In the past I’ve used Decorations as modifiers on social checks with fellow military veterans. Awards for scientific or professional achievement could work in a similar fashion. It could also help get the character noticed, which may or may not be a good thing.

Beyond that - i’m wary of giving them too much weight in terms of discrete concrete bonuses, i’d rather see them used to enable better role play and to help provide the GM more story-telling options (the engineer proudly displays his patent-award plaque in the drive room to remind the others of just how smart he really is....) But in some cases (or maybe just in some careers) a sufficiently high award (or a lot of awards) might add a DM+1 to a single benefit check, or maybe raise an equipment benefit one level. Getting an extra Contact/Rival/Ally is another thought; that would another benefit that provides some storytelling and role playing opportunities.

Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:19 pm
by dmccoy1693
Linwood wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:23 am
I’ve been using that book for some time. An excellent supplement!
I am glad you enjoy so much. If you haven't already, please leave a review. :D

Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:17 pm
by steve98052
I like the idea of awards too, even if they don't have any official rules effect. Sure, you can have role-playing situationslike someone meeting a character and saying, "Are you the Kus? The only living Vargr from Extolay with an S-E-H? Your drinks are on the house, and we'll give you the Count's Suite for the price of a basic room."
dmccoy1693 wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:19 am
If you are looking for expanded career event tables, might I recommend the D66 Compendium 2 by Jon Brazer Enterprises (my company). We have expanded event tables for all of the careers in the core book plus so much more.
This looks cool. But off topic, why does it show up as a Mongoose title? Is it on a sub-license similar to the TAS thing?

Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:57 pm
by dmccoy1693
dmccoy1693 wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:19 am
If you are looking for expanded career event tables, might I recommend the D66 Compendium 2 by Jon Brazer Enterprises (my company). We have expanded event tables for all of the careers in the core book plus so much more.
steve98052 wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:17 pm
This looks cool. But off topic, why does it show up as a Mongoose title? Is it on a sub-license similar to the TAS thing?
It is a TAS title. It doesn't have the logo on it, but it isn't required to have it (unless you try to make your covers look like one of Mongoose's, and I think we can safely say that that does not look like one of Mongoose's books.

Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:01 pm
by Rikki Tikki Traveller
Spica Publishing has THREE expanded career books including D66 Event tables for all the base MGT1 careers - through the 3 books each MGT1 career Specialty is expanded into a full career of its own with additional specialties. Quite a few new careers are also added.

NPCs from each career are also provided

DISCLAIMER: I wrote most of those careers.

Hope that helps.

Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:11 pm
by NOLATrav
Emphatic +1 for the Spica books. Excellent material!

Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:37 pm
by Old School
I looked at the preview for the Spica books and like what I see. Looks they havent published in a while, however. Any chance there will be an update for the 2nd edition?

Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:36 am
by NOLATrav
I use them as is, no conversion necessary.

Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:01 pm
by Rikki Tikki Traveller
Old School wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:37 pm
I looked at the preview for the Spica books and like what I see. Looks they havent published in a while, however. Any chance there will be an update for the 2nd edition?
Spica cannot update them to 2nd Edition due to the licensing issues. IF books were released for 2nd Edition, they would have to go under the TAS license, which would mean giving up the IP rights and not being able to advertise it themselves. Basically, Mongoose would own it.

I was one of the authors of those books. While Spica doesn't publish new material anymore, the books are perfectly useable as is and can be ported to 2nd Edition very easily. I think a few skills changed names slightly, but that's about it.

Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:24 pm
by Old School
Thanks for the reply. Perhaps I find the differences between the two skill systems more distracting than others do (and I much prefer 2nd ed), but I can always tweak them to my own tastes. I’ll download the first Spica book and give it a shot.

Re: Why no career books?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:38 pm
by ShawnDriscoll
Old School wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:24 pm
Thanks for the reply. Perhaps I find the differences between the two skill systems more distracting than others do (and I much prefer 2nd ed), but I can always tweak them to my own tastes. I’ll download the first Spica book and give it a shot.
Most of the time, any rule conversion will simply involve renaming a skill's name is all. Referees add/subtract skill names all the time for their games. So no big deal there.

There's the other tweak for the task check:
1st edition rolls for 8+ always, while adding/subtracting difficulty DMs. 2nd edition rolls for difficulty always, so no difficulty DMs to mess with.