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loans for Speculative Trade?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:16 am
by SirKerry
Are there any rules/guildelines for the PCs getting a loan to engage in Speculative Trade?

Re: loans for Speculative Trade?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:01 am
by Galadrion
Yes. Pretty much any lender willing to loan to a player-character spec-trader is going have the middle name "The". You know, Johnny The Fish, Jimmy The Squirrel, Jabba The Hutt...

Plot hook, anyone?

Re: loans for Speculative Trade?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:57 am
by Reynard
And expect bounty hunters, lots of bounty hunters.

Re: loans for Speculative Trade?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:06 pm
by phavoc
No one expects the Spanish bounty hunter!

Re: loans for Speculative Trade?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:25 pm
by Condottiere
You can put a mortgage on your liver, though kidney might be safer.

Re: loans for Speculative Trade?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:44 pm
by PsiTraveller
I do not think there are rules, which offers the chance to make some neat houserules for your game.

It makes sense really. Suppose your broker player makes an awesome roll and finds a deal on 30 tons of Advanced Manufactured Goods. They roll 18 on the 3D roll and get 50% of the purchase price. If they could borrow the 1.5 million to buy the goods, they could double the money with an average roll on the selling table.

Maybe you could get a second, or a modified mortgage on your ship? Add the extra debt to the ship's mortgage and get a higher monthly payment. Add in the option to pay back the loan as soon as you make your profit.

And just to add a question. Suppose someone makes a killing in the spec trade market. Can ships be paid off faster to save the interest cost? Does anyone allow this and if so, what penalties do you impose for the faster payment. I know you can pay off a home mortgage faster with a minor penalty, why not extend this to spaceships? :P

Re: loans for Speculative Trade?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:49 am
by Linwood
I think I’d approach this much like traders in the days of sail. Instead of loans, have the PCs round up investors willing to front the cash in return for a share of the profits. Naturally that sets up some tension - investors will likely seek a deal that minimizes their risk while the PCs will want to at least ensure their expenses are covered.

That work could be an adventure all by itself. Think about The Producers.... :D

Re: loans for Speculative Trade?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:14 am
by PsiTraveller
An agent of the loan company could be part of the deal. They get a cabin and literally follows the money around. Imagine the players trying to run any scams or adventures while the Company man is around and the players want to appear professional.

Re: loans for Speculative Trade?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:35 pm
by Reynard
Money is never free.

Re: loans for Speculative Trade?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:46 pm
by Condottiere
Someone's paying, but it might not be you.

Re: loans for Speculative Trade?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:37 pm
by SirKerry
I ended up hacking up the GURPS Traveller Far Trader loan rules to work with MgT2: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s91/sh/4 ... e76ee010d4