Can gauss weapons use AP rounds?

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Can gauss weapons use AP rounds?

Postby paltrysum » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:19 pm

The MgT2 Central Supply Catalog ammunition section says that magrail weapons cannot use AP rounds in the introduction to the chapter. Would you take that to mean that gauss weapons, by extension, also cannot use AP rounds?
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Re: Can gauss weapons use AP rounds?

Postby ShawnDriscoll » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:23 pm

I don't have that book. But don't weapons generally need an AP trait to do AP stuff?
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Re: Can gauss weapons use AP rounds?

Postby Reynard » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:26 pm

Gauss weapons fire tough slugs at very high velocities making the ammo inherently armor piercing and a natural trait of the weapon that other firearms don't have. An armor piercing gauss round would be redundant.
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Re: Can gauss weapons use AP rounds?

Postby AnotherDilbert » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:34 pm

paltrysum wrote: Would you take that to mean that gauss weapons, by extension, also cannot use AP rounds?
No, I wouldn't.

Magrail seems to be the "shotgun" version of gauss weapons introduced at higher TL. It's a specialisation of gauss, not the other way around.

Besides:
CSC, p129 wrote:The gauss cannon may use the variant ammunition types found in the Ammunition chapter.
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Re: Can gauss weapons use AP rounds?

Postby baithammer » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:02 pm

All the gauss heavy weapons in MGT 2ed CS have AP as a trait with Mass Driver instead having Artillery.
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Re: Can gauss weapons use AP rounds?

Postby paltrysum » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:35 pm

ShawnDriscoll wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:23 pm
I don't have that book. But don't weapons generally need an AP trait to do AP stuff?
There's an ammunition section in the book that features many types of variant ammunition: armor piercing, discarding sabot, explosive, aerosol, directed plasma, etc. The AP rounds are more expensive but provide an additional AP equal to the damage dice number of the weapon. So, for example, if a gauss rifle (which already has an AP trait of 3) can use AP rounds, that would add an additional AP of 4 (since the gauss rifle does 4D), giving the weapon an AP value of 7.

Sounds like the consensus is gauss weapons can indeed use AP rounds. It seems a bit massively overpowered, but if that's what the rules say, I expect they wanted it that way.
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Re: Can gauss weapons use AP rounds?

Postby baithammer » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:45 am

In addition, heavy weapons may not use the ammunition in this chapter, unless otherwise stated in their description
There is a note at the bottom of the list of weapons not capable of using AP ammunition, in this case heavy weapons unless the specific entry states otherwise.

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