Low Berth vs Fast Drug

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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby baithammer » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:46 am

That is only if used while your metabolism is running on normal, with 1/60th via fast the net effect on first dose is 1/30th of normal. The tricky part is only the fast drug has a duration at 2 mos, if you administer the slow drug too late then you have to contend with the side effect described.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby Sigtrygg » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:16 am

I wouldn't take both:
Synergy: If more than one drug is taken (except medical drug), the combination
may have an adverse effect, called synergy. In addition to all other effects of drugs,
throw one die for each drug taken, and multiply the results together. This indicates
the number of hits or wounds received as a result of synergy. Such hits are inflicted
at the end of the period of drug use.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby Condottiere » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:28 am

I'm not a biologist nor a pharmacist.

But I think it also depends if it's an active ingredient or a passive one.

An active ingredient continually aggravates the body to continue the effect, while the passive one just kicks off the effect and for all intents and purposes disappears.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby baithammer » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:41 pm

Synergy: If more than one drug is taken (except medical drug)
Both fast and slow are medical drugs.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby Sigtrygg » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:37 pm

No, they are not.

Medical drug is a stand alone drug:
Medical drug is a general term describing the set of drugs used by medical
personnel in the treatment of illness or injury. Generally, medical drug must be
administered by a person with medical expertise, and the drug serves as medical
treatment. Medical drug is often used in conjunction with medical slow drug.
And before you pick apart that last sentence, medical slow drug is a different drug to regular slow drug:
A medical slow drug is also available, being used to hasten recovery from wounds
or illness. One dose causes unconsciousness, and the passage of 30 days equivalent
time in one day. During this period, ordinary healing takes place. No wounds or hits
are received from the use of medical slow drug. Be certain to note the passage of
time at the increased rate during period of drug use.
Slow drug costs 5000Cr and is TL8, medical slow drug costs 100Cr and is TL7.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby baithammer » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:07 pm

That would be the "Metabolic accelerator drug" which is an entirely different beast to Slow drug, which in mgt 2ed is no longer referred to as "Slow Drug".
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby Sigtrygg » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:12 pm

The synergy rules I quoted are from CT, I don't even know if MgT has them.

I prefer CT definitions to MgT re-interpretations.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby Condottiere » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:12 am

It's not Haste and Slow spells, so no magical inherent compensatory constitutional inertial compensation.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby baithammer » Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:37 pm

The same systems are affected by both drugs and they have mitigating effects on each other, so if perfectly reasonable to be able to counter one with the other but don't botch the skill check to set the dose.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby phavoc » Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:14 pm

baithammer wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:37 pm
The same systems are affected by both drugs and they have mitigating effects on each other, so if perfectly reasonable to be able to counter one with the other but don't botch the skill check to set the dose.
That's the point though. The human body is still fragile. These two drugs would have massive effects on your tissues. I think it's too simplistic to think that a body could go from hyper to hypo instantly. Hell, people get cramps far easier than that when doing much smaller temperature extremes.

Spacing out the intervals would make more sense, but even then yud have to wonder how fast the changes cold be handled before the massive shocks to the system would cause problems, or evenx death. Though death can be cheated with doctors and medicine.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby Condottiere » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:04 pm

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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby baithammer » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:03 am

I'd think the actions aren't instantaneous and have an uptake effect.

The whole point is to be able to in an emergency to revive or counter the effect as this isn't a recreational drug.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby Sigtrygg » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:37 am

Fast drug has an antidote - listed separately.
Slow drug doesn't - at least in CT.

I'm going to stick with CT since MgT appears to have accidently missed the rules on synergy
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby Condottiere » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:51 pm

Dumarest is the default source for this.

I don't recall if Tubb ever discussed what happens when you mix both of them.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby baithammer » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:39 am

From experience with metabolic medications, have a diaper on before doing any of this.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby baithammer » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:39 am

From experience with metabolic medications, have a diaper on before doing any of this.
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Re: Low Berth vs Fast Drug

Postby Condottiere » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:11 pm

Slow speeds up metabolism, so the results could be explosive.

Vacuum plumbing sounds like a solution.

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