Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:59 pm

Hotchkiss Universal SMG

he Hotchkiss Universal is a pretty interesting submachine gun, despite its rather clumsy appearance. The overriding design intent was to make a very compact folding carbine, and Hotchiss certainly met that objective. However, the gun ended up being too expensive and complex to achieve any real commercial success. Some wound up in Indochina, and some sales were made to Venezuela and Morocco, but that was about the extent of the Universal's production. There are a few of these guns that were imported into the US as live semi-auto carbines, interestingly.

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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby snrdg121408 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:20 pm

Hi Condottiere,
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Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:59 pm
Hotchkiss Universal SMG

he Hotchkiss Universal is a pretty interesting submachine gun, despite its rather clumsy appearance. The overriding design intent was to make a very compact folding carbine, and Hotchiss certainly met that objective. However, the gun ended up being too expensive and complex to achieve any real commercial success. Some wound up in Indochina, and some sales were made to Venezuela and Morocco, but that was about the extent of the Universal's production. There are a few of these guns that were imported into the US as live semi-auto carbines, interestingly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRrFWQXl-RE



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Kind of reminds me of the WW II Sten gun.
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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:48 pm

Conceptually opposite.

Stens were made to be dead simple to construct and operate:


German Sten Copy: MP 3008, aka Gerät Neumünster

The MP 3008, aka Gerät Neumünster, was one of two German efforts to copy the British Sten gun. The first was the Gerät Potsdam ("gerät" meaning device or project; basically project code name), which was a direct copy of the Sten distinguishable only by a marking details and a few differences in manufacturing processes. While 10,000 of those were being manufactured by Mauser, R&D engineer Ludwig Vorgrimmler was simplifying the Sten design even farther, resulting in the MP-3008.

This simplified design did away with the Sten's barrel shroud, and used a vertical magazine well instead of the Sten's distinctive horizontal mounting. These were the significant changes, although there was also a sling loop placed on the front of the magazine well and a few minor simplifications to the fire control parts. Unlike the Potsdam, significant variation can be found in the MP-3008 in the details of stock and grip design.

In a masterpiece of insane optimism, German official placed and order for literally a million MP-3008 submachine guns, which of course was completely insane. Manufacture was undertaken at a wide scattering of small shops, with guns being assembled by larger manufacturers from supplied parts. The total made is not known, but is probably in the range of 3000-5000. Some are marked with manufacturing codes from recognized factories, some with codes unknown, and some have no marking at all. This particular example is dewat made by "TJK" - an unknown factory.

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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby snrdg121408 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:05 pm

Hi again Condottiere
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Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:48 pm
Conceptually opposite.

Stens were made to be dead simple to construct and operate:
The weapon looks like a Sten with modifications that from the comments above made the Hotchkiss Universal SMG the opposite of dead simple to construct and operate.
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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:33 pm

I've always wondered what would have happened if they had designed the magazine to be top mounted.

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The Owen has a simple blowback design, firing from an open bolt. It was designed to be fired either from the shoulder or the hip. It is easily recognisable, owing to its unconventional appearance, including the top-mounted magazine, and the side-mounted sight required to allow the firer to aim past it. The placement of the magazine allows gravity to assist the magazine spring in pushing cartridges down to the breech, which improves feeding reliability.
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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby snrdg121408 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:30 pm

Hello again Condottiere,
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Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:33 pm
I've always wondered what would have happened if they had designed the magazine to be top mounted.

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The Owen has a simple blowback design, firing from an open bolt. It was designed to be fired either from the shoulder or the hip. It is easily recognisable, owing to its unconventional appearance, including the top-mounted magazine, and the side-mounted sight required to allow the firer to aim past it. The placement of the magazine allows gravity to assist the magazine spring in pushing cartridges down to the breech, which improves feeding reliability.
I've got a copy of Jane's Guns Recognition Guide from 2008 for some reason the author omitted the Hotchkiss, Owen, and the MP 3008.

Thank you for the links.
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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:24 pm

Guns have to be built around existing ammunition, not the other way around.

Travellers will come across lots of weirdly shaped firearms, as the artists of Mongoose Second have come to realize.

Having said that, what will happen is that civilian smallarms are likely to be variations on what we describe as assault rifles, actually a carbine, as we seem to have perfected it at let's say technological level eight, at an apparently agreed upon calibre of five and a half millimetres, with an effective range of two to three hundred metres. It can be overcomplicated with bullpup configuration, horizontal ammunition feed, caseless, and so on, but the simplified form of the em four is now the basis.

In the Five Kay universe, this will be non controversial, as neither law enforcement nor the military fear it, the advanced combat rifle easily outperforms it, and personal armour would mostly protect against it's effects. It would be almost as quaint as a crossbow or a musket, except in terms of how it can be modified to automatic fire and it's lethality to unarmoured civilians.

If there are regulations, it will likely to be on ammunition types, such as high explosives, and magazine capacities. On more advanced models, electronic safety locks and user identification.

Top mounted magazines have two advantages when gravitated, it improves feed reliability, and doesn't get in the way when firing: the Owen being famous in this regard.
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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:06 am

Does Planet 9 Exist?

A planet has been predicted to orbit the sun with a period of 10,000 years, a mass 5x that of Earth on a highly elliptical and inclined orbit. What evidence supports the existence of such a strange object at the edge of our solar system?

I had heard about Planet 9 for a long time but I wondered what sort of evidence could support the bold claim: a planet at the very limits of our ability to detect one, so far out that its period is over 60 times that of Neptune. The planet 9 hypothesis helps explain clustering of orbits of distant Kuiper belt objects. It also explains how some of these objects have highly inclined orbits - up to 90 degrees relative to the plane of the solar system. Some are orbiting in reverse. Plus their orbits are removed from the orbit of Neptune, the logical option for a body that could have ejected them out so far. The fact that the perihelion is so far out suggests another source of gravity was essential for their peculiar orbits.

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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:54 am

GSG Ruger 10/22 Rotary Magazine video manual

This is the video manual for the GSG Ruger 10/22 Rotary Magazine

Link to german version / Link zur deutschen Fassung:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ef7Ol...

Directed by: Dominik Windmüller

Music by: Baumeistah Produktion Berlin

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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:00 am

Almost Adopted: The H&K XM-8 Family

Today we are in H&K's Grey Room in Virginia, taking a look at the XM-8 program. The rifle evolved form the kinetic energy carbine portion of the doomed XM29/OICW program, and eventually became the G36 rifle. In between those two, however, it was the XM-8, and it came close to adoption by the US military.The XM-8 was designed to be a very modular system, with a variety of interchangeable stocks, handguards, optics and accessories. We will take a look at all of these different elements, as well as the disassembly and mechanical function of the design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te2IqFbRR7A



Starship troopery.

If I remember correctly, a variation on this theme would exchange the grenade launcher with a shotgun, and that shotgun, at least a year ago, could with a butt attachment be used independently, which I'll assume could have also been the case with the grenade launcher, or in Ripley's case, flame thrower.


HK XM-8: What Was it and Why? (With Larry Vickers)

Larry Vickers has the closest thing most any of us will ever have to a true XM-8 rifle, and has more than a little trigger time on the original XM-8 rifles. So, I asked him to explain what the rifle was and why it failed to become the new American service rifle. It's a fascinating story that will give you a lot of insight into the state of rifle development over the last 20 years!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z1wSamsXLs



The trend seems to be to make the assault rifle as light and as compact as possible, without really compromising performance and robusticity. Army rifle procurement remains steadfastly conservative.


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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby snrdg121408 » Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:44 pm

Hi again Condottiere,

Thank you for all the cool weapons you have been posting.

To me the H&K XM-8 looks like a weapon I image used in Traveller.
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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:07 am

Top 5 Guns To Survive A Pandemic

Five firearms under $400 to get you through an economic collapse, Plague, SHTF, or the end of the civilized world. I'm not saying it's going to happen but it's always good to be prepared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_AVpq_Eb3E



1. For that toilet paper run.

2. Nine millimetre has been described to me as the best defensive ammunition, but I tend to think this is specific to pistol sidearms, as pistol carbines and sub carbines have better accuracy and range; pistols can be used offensively, but like swords, they're actually meant more as deterrence. On the other hand, sharing the same ammunition with a pistol carbine, as well as the same magazines, makes it very versatile. This can include submachine guns and machine pistols.

3. Arguably, you could say the same thing about about assault rifle ammunition in a sub carbine gun, and a longarm rifle.

4. Actual versatility, single barrel shotgun with sleeve liner adapters.
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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:14 am

The Ultimate Survival Weapon

Shooting every caliber bullet between .22 to .308

The weapon of choice, one gun to replace them all!

https://scavenger6.com/wp-content/uploa ... nger-6.mp4


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Undoubtedly, someone will try to sell something similar to unwary Travellers; I'd still stick to the old boomstick with adapters.
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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:11 pm

PL-01 Prototype concept tank | POLISH STEALTH TANK

The PL-01 concept tank was jointly developed by Obrum of Poland and BAE Systems of the United Kingdom. Development commenced in 2013. Mock up of the tank was first publicly revealed during the same year. Currently this tank is only a technology demonstrator. It was planned that a fully functional prototype will be completed in 2016. This tank was aimed to meet a possible Polish Army requirement. Some sources even reported that this tank could enter service in 2018. However eventually the PL-01 never passed the prototype stage. Currently Polish Army operate around 900 main battle tanks, including indigenous PT-91 Twardy and German Leopard 2. Also there are around 400 T-72 MBTs in storage. Originally it was planned that once in production the PL-01 will be also proposed for export customers.

In 2010 another Anders prototype light tank was revealed in Poland. A whole host of armored vehicles were being developed on the Anders platform. These included infantry fighting vehicle, fire support vehicle, anti-tank missile carrier and other. The PL-01 could be also seen as an uparmored version of the Anders.

The PL-01 is based on the Swedish CV90120-T light tank. It also shares some similarities with the Anders light tank, which is based on the same platform. Weight of the PL-01 tank is claimed to to be 35 t. Other sources reported that production tank could weight around 45-50 t.

It was planned that the new Polish tank will have modular protection with multi-layer ceramic-aramid armor. Damaged add-on armor modules would be easily replaced in field conditions. Also newer modules could be fitted once more advanced armor is available. It is claimed that front armor with add-on armor will provide protection against 30- or 40 mm armor-piercing rounds. It was planned that all-round protection will be against 14.5 mm armor-piercing rounds. Such level of protection makes this vehicle closer to modern light tanks than true main battle tanks. It was planned that the hull will have a high level of protection against landmines and improvised explosive devices. This tank was designed to withstand explosions equivalent to 10 kg of TNT anywhere under the hull. It was planned that active protection system will be integrated. Automatic fire suppression and NBC protection system would be fitted as standard.

The new tank has an unmanned turret. Ammunition is stored in a separate compartment with blow-out panels. It was planned that the new tank will be armed with a 120 mm gun, completed with an autoloader. This gun would be capable of firing all standard NATO 120 mm tank ammunition. It was claimed that this tank will be capable of launching anti-tank guided missiles in the same manner as ordinary rounds. Around 40 rounds were planned to be carried for the main gun, including 12-16 ready-to-use rounds. Though it was unknown if it will be possible to replenish the autoloader on the battlefield. It was planned that a tank with a 105 mm gun will be proposed for export customers.
The PL-01 uses stealth technology. It has a thermal camouflage which makes it harder to detect with thermal sensors. It is claimed that the whole tank will be covered with radio wave absorbent material. However it is unknown if angular shapes of this tank were intended to reduce radar cross-section or just to give a more futuristic look.
This tank has have a crew of three, including commander, gunner and driver. Commander and gunner enter and leave the vehicle via a rear hatch. Ammunition is also loaded via the rear hatch. This tank has a capability to carry up to four additional soldiers inside the hull in place of ammunition.
The PL-01 is based on the chassis of the Swedish CV90 IFV which has been around for a while and recommended itself well. Engine compartment is located at the front of the hull. It was planned that this tank will be powered by a diesel engine developing around 1 000 hp, possibly of German origin. An automatic transmission was also planned. It was claimed that the PL-01 will have a cross-country speed of 50 km/h. The PL-01 can be fitted with a deep wading kit.

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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:44 am

Sabre Against The Germans In WW2: Polish WZ.34 Szabla

The Polish WZ.34 szabla, or sabre, is an iconic and much sought-after sword. It was developed as a blend of tradition and Polish heritage, married to modern industrial production standards and quality control. It was put through tough tests in the factory in order to be approved for service.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxyuWu1ZNwI



1. Unless the Marines have the chainsaw version and heavily protected powered armour (and have surprise), I pretty much suspect they'll get perforated, especially in narrow corridors.

2. Or are from an order of psionically powerful peace keepers, equipped with plasma weapons enclosed in a magnetic bottle.

3. Viable in a labyrinthic environment, where electronic detection is difficult and range would by it's nature be short.

4. Explains Eisenhower.
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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:24 am

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That's when you go back to your ship, and see if the locker has a bigger gun.
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Postby Condottiere » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:50 am

Wood Powered Tanks? Lost Technology

Shout out fro my friend DeadlyPie for helping we with proofreading

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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby snrdg121408 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:39 pm

Hi Condottiere,
Condottiere wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:50 am
Wood Powered Tanks? Lost Technology

Shout out fro my friend DeadlyPie for helping we with proofreading

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3apnzNVHtLg


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Thank you for the video link which adds another odd ball item from WW II.
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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:09 am

World's Rarest Firearm Action? George Hoenig's Rotary Round Action Gun

George Hoenig, Designer of the world's rarest, strongest, slickest and most elegantly engineered sporting firearm demonstrates how to operate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncj3bux7c5o


Shooting a Hoenig Rotary Round Action Rifle

Ron Spomer shoots a rare Hoenig Rotary Round Action double-barrel dangerous game rifle chambered 9.3x74 Rimmed and details its function and construction before visiting briefly with gentleman George Hoenig himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMMgffFiShU



Possible shotgun rifle combination survival rifle, for those who most probably don't need one.

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Re: Ship's Locker: Out of the Closet

Postby Condottiere » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:42 am

Pancor Jackhammer: The Real One

The Pancor Jackhammer was a select-fire combat shotgun designed by John Andersen in the 1980s. He was a Korean War veteran who had used a pump shotgun in combat, and while he liked the shotgun concept, he felt there must be a more efficient way to make a shotgun than a single-loading pump action. The tinkered with ideas and designs, and ultimately devised the Jackhammer. It is a remarkably clever and interesting mechanism, combining mechanical elements from the Mannlicher 1894, 1895 Nagant revolver, and the Webley-Fosbery automatic revolver.

After making several dozen mockups out of wood and clay to get the mechanics just right, Andersen built a fully functional prototype, which is the gun you see here. It used a lot of large cast parts (and weighed a fully 17.5 pounds), and had a very slow reloading process. However, it proved that the concept was valid and it worked reliably. Andersen then made two more with much lighter materials and a much improved reloading mechanism. These two guns were submitted to the US military for testing, and both were ultimately destroyed by HP White Labs in destructive tests. The testing proved very positive (the guns survived a 50,000 round endurance test), but were ultimately rejected by the military.

The first prototype was kept personally by Andersen, and is now the sole existing Jackhammer. It was owned for several years by Movie Gun Services, which rented it to a number of film, video game, and comic book companies. Because of this and its very distinctive appearance, the Jackhammer has made appearances in a vast number of comics and video games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VKGhqIl4Gw


How a Pancor Jackhammer works

The Pancor Corporation Jackhammer was a 12-gauge, gas-operated automatic shotgun designed in 1984 and patented in 1987. Only a few working prototypes of the Jackhammer were built. In the late 1990s, the current owner of the design, Mark III, attempted to sell the patents, prototypes, and production rights for $350,000. Nonetheless, its distinctive appearance and futuristic design have made it a prop in action films, television programs, and video games.

The Jackhammer was designed by John A. Anderson, who formed the company Pancor Industries in New Mexico. Reportedly, several foreign governments expressed interest in the design and even ordered initial production units once ready for delivery.[citation needed] However, the design was held up for production due to United States Department of Defense testing, though the design was eventually rejected. With no customers and little interest, Pancor went bankrupt. Supposed overseas orders were subject to United States Department of State approval that was not forthcoming. The assets of Pancor were sold off, including the few prototypes built.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kzsQOcrvHk


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Striker 12: Shotgun Turned "Destructive Device"

The Striker shotgun was designed by a Rhodesian named Hilton Walker in the late 1970s, although not manufactured until after he had emigrated to South Africa. He partnered with the owner of the Armsel company to finance production, which was actually done by a company called Aserma Manufacturing. The original Striker version of the gun used a wind-up spring-powered 12-round cylinder coupled with a gas auto-ejection system for all but the final round fired. This was treated as a semiautomatic shotgun by the South African police, and Walker redesigned it in 1991 to be manually indexed (by pivoting the front grip and barrel shroud between shots). This allowed for less regulated sale in South Africa at the time.

For the export market - like the United States - the distinction was not relevant, and it was the Striker model with its wind-up cylinder that was brought in by a company called Sentinel Arms. Both a full-length version with an 18 inch barrel and folding stock, and an “entry” version with a 7 inch barrel and no stock, were sold. In 1994, public pressure led the Clinton administration to designate the Striker-12 along with the Cobray Streetsweeper and USAS-12 shotguns as Destructive Devices under the 1934 National Firearms Act. This was legally possible because the NFA considers all firearms with bore diameters over 1/2 inch to be Destructive Devices, with guns like shotguns exempted if they are considered suitable for sporting purposes.

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In terms of efficiency, semi automatic with a box magazine; you probably could make it bull pup.

And automatic.

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