phavoc wrote:Modern missile systems (replaced by VLS) were fully automatic. The Terrier/Taos systems were older and slower. The twin arm launchers on the Flight 1 Ticonderoga class cruisers, or the single arm launchers of the Perry class frigates is more what Traveller should have.
The missiles are preloaded in the magazine, and the feeding mechanism allowss the operator to select the proper missile for launch.
When the first CT rules came out you had a generic missile, and that was it. Now you have multiple versions and the old model rums smack into the new one. Whether it was an oversight in the rule rewrite or not is an arguest for another thread. But the end result is that the existing model doesn't fit very well wirh common sense or real world technology.
Yes, example of the real missile systems used in this post had a magazine that was loaded to capacity prior to getting underway. Once all the missiles in the magazine had been fired there are no missiles that are stored in a separate magazine to refill the launchers magazine. In order to fill the missile magazine the ship has to either return to port or do an underway replenishment.
The only difference I see between CT/MT/TNE/T4/GURPS Traveller/Traveller 20 and MgT is the number of missiles carried in a turret. The older versions, okay CT SS3 does throw a wrench in the mix, allow three per launcher while MgT does twelve. Unfortunately, all versions, in my opinion, cannot fit what is put in a turret since the one d-ton is for the fire control not the turret or the weapons mounted in them.
In my opinion the Traveller missile turret is more along the lines of a 5"/54 caliber Mark 45 with a on board capacity and a reload magazine close by to keep the turret in operation.
I disagree that the MgT or older Traveller versions model does not fit with common sense based real technology. The issue concerns, in my opinion, the simplification of the space requirements needed inside turret. TNE/T4 and GURPS Traveller allow you to design, in my opinion, closer approximations of real turrets than the plug and play design systems of CT, MT, Traveller 20, and MgT.